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    This news seems to have slipped by unmentioned here, a future two term president jokingly using racial slurs with the sitting US president is pretty damning....
    'Damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes,' Reagan tells Nixon, who erupts in laughter

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    Remember, that was only a few years after LBJ told ni**er jokes in the Senate cloakroom . . . . At least he was smart enough not to leave the tape recorder running while he told them . . . .
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    • #3
      Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
      Remember, that was only a few years after LBJ told ni**er jokes in the Senate cloakroom . . . . At least he was smart enough not to leave the tape recorder running while he told them . . . .
      He also passed the civil rights act, Reagan took their guns, sold them cocaine and then disproportionately jailed them for the privelage....

      Just sayin

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jutland View Post

        He also passed the civil rights act,

        Just sayin
        No, he signed the bill that the congress passed:

        The House passed the bill after 70 days of public hearings and testimony in a 290-130 vote. The bill received 152 “yea” votes from Democrats, or 60 percent of their party, and 138 votes from Republicans, or 78 percent of their party.

        These percentages include four vote categories—“yea,” “nay,” “present,” and “not voting.”

        In the Senate, the bill faced strong and organized opposition from Southern Democrats. Influential senators like Richard Russell, Strom Thurmond (who would soon switch to the Republican Party), Robert Byrd, William Fulbright, and Sam Ervin joined together to launch a filibuster that lasted for 57 days.

        Russell, a Democrat from Georgia, at one point argued that the bill would lead to the destruction of the South’s “two different social orders” and result in the “amalgamation and mongrelization of our people.”

        After some changes were made to the bill and the filibuster ended, it passed the Senate with a 73-27 vote. About 82 percent of Republicans in the Senate voted for the bill, as did 69 percent of Democrats. The amended Senate bill was then sent back to the House where it passed with 76 percent support from Republicans and 60 percent support from Democrats.


        "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jutland View Post

          He also passed the civil rights act, Reagan took their guns, sold them cocaine and then disproportionately jailed them for the privelage....

          Just sayin
          In fairness to Reagan, the cocaine came after Carmine Galante was whacked: blow filled the H void. The whole "war on drugs" approach started back in the '70s, and the liberal Nelson Rockefeller was big on that one -- and at least in some instances he was responding to calls from action from within African-American communities, who were being decimated by heroin, thanks to the aforementioned Galante, as well as Crazy Joey Gallo and his running buddy Frank Lucas.
          Last edited by slick_miester; 14 Aug 19, 16:40. Reason: I mixed up my heroin dealers. "D'oh!"
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nichols View Post

            No, he signed the bill that the congress passed:

            The House passed the bill after 70 days of public hearings and testimony in a 290-130 vote. The bill received 152 “yea” votes from Democrats, or 60 percent of their party, and 138 votes from Republicans, or 78 percent of their party.

            These percentages include four vote categories—“yea,” “nay,” “present,” and “not voting.”

            In the Senate, the bill faced strong and organized opposition from Southern Democrats. Influential senators like Richard Russell, Strom Thurmond (who would soon switch to the Republican Party), Robert Byrd, William Fulbright, and Sam Ervin joined together to launch a filibuster that lasted for 57 days.

            Russell, a Democrat from Georgia, at one point argued that the bill would lead to the destruction of the South’s “two different social orders” and result in the “amalgamation and mongrelization of our people.”

            After some changes were made to the bill and the filibuster ended, it passed the Senate with a 73-27 vote. About 82 percent of Republicans in the Senate voted for the bill, as did 69 percent of Democrats. The amended Senate bill was then sent back to the House where it passed with 76 percent support from Republicans and 60 percent support from Democrats.

            So he signed it then, moving on.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jutland View Post

              So he signed it then, moving on.
              And Bill Clinton signed the 1996 Anti-Crime Act which imposed harsh mandatory sentences for possession of minimal amounts of drugs. Come to think of it, Joe Biden voted for it. How responsible were they for that bit of farce?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                And Bill Clinton signed the 1996 Anti-Crime Act which imposed harsh mandatory sentences for possession of minimal amounts of drugs. Come to think of it, Joe Biden voted for it. How responsible were they for that bit of farce?

                Governments seems to be racist without even trying, but when the guy on top gets caught saying what Reagan said then the 'not intenional' card looks weak AF.

                And didn't Clinton repeatedly apologise.

                Apology or racial slur mmhhh.....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jutland View Post
                  Governments seems to be racist without even trying
                  More accurately than they realize, governments reflect rather presciently their constituents' sentiments.

                  Originally posted by Jutland View Post
                  but when the guy on top gets caught saying what Reagan said then the 'not intenional' card looks weak AF.
                  - emphasis mine

                  "AF"?

                  Originally posted by Jutland View Post
                  And didn't Clinton repeatedly apologise.
                  Yeah, and he also claimed not to have had "sex with that woman" -- after years and years of touting his feminist credentials.

                  Are you only now just learning that politicians are liars and hypocrites?
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                  • #10
                    Lincoln was also a racist. Different times, different standards.

                    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.”
                    Lincoln believed that Black people living in close proximity to white people would ruin the image of the pure white family that he found ideal. He felt the birth of mixed race children would cause family life to “collapse.” He said, “Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.”
                    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                      Lincoln was also a racist. Different times, different standards.


                      Yeah because the 70s and 80s was so long ago

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                        More accurately than they realize, governments reflect rather presciently their constituents' sentiments.

                        - emphasis mine

                        "AF"?



                        Yeah, and he also claimed not to have had "sex with that woman" -- after years and years of touting his feminist credentials.

                        Are you only now just learning that politicians are liars and hypocrites?
                        Technically, B.c. Was correct, he had sex with "many women'.. a double negative, though I suspect many of his tests came back- positive..aaaaaah

                        The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jutland View Post

                          Yeah because the 70s and 80s was so long ago
                          A lifetime and more for many of our young members. The 70's was almost fifty years ago next year.

                          Point is, however, that even the most sainted of our presidents were racist.
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                            A lifetime and more for many of our young members. The 70's was almost fifty years ago next year.

                            Point is, however, that even the most sainted of our presidents were racist.
                            If somebody hobbles a 10 year old what do you have 50 years later?

                            There is a legacy there, a legacy that has maybe led to higher incarceration rates, longer sentences, worse education, lowered economic opportunities, ghettos, drugs, unemployment, systematic police brutality......

                            ​​​​​​But Lincoln said racist things.....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jutland View Post

                              He also passed the civil rights act, Reagan took their guns, sold them cocaine and then disproportionately jailed them for the privelage....

                              Just sayin
                              A lot of people forget that Reagan and the NRA disarmed blacks.
                              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                              - Benjamin Franklin

                              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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