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  • The NRA in Trouble?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/we...cid=spartandhp

    'In the aftermath of the back-to-back massacres in Texas and Ohio, the debate over gun control has returned to the National Rifle Association and its immense power to stymie any significant legislation on the issue.'

    'The man largely responsible for the NRA's uncompromising stance is its decades-long CEO, Wayne LaPierre, who has been engulfed in turmoil and legal issues as he orchestrates the group's latest effort to push back against gun-control measures.'

    'Law enforcement authorities are investigating the NRA's finances, and the gun group has ousted top officials and traded lawsuits with the longtime marketing firm credited with helping to shape LaPierre's and the NRA's image.'

    'LaPierre's seven-figure salary, penchant for luxury clothing shopping sprees and reports that he sought to have the NRA buy him a $6 million mansion at an exclusive golf community have drawn considerable scrutiny amid allegations of rampant misspending.'

    'Ardent gun-rights supporters have turned on LaPierre in recent months, taking to Twitter and Facebook with the hashtags #changethenra and #savethe2a. Some are calling for his resignation and questioning how he can turn the tide against the push for more robust gun-control measures after the Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, Texas, rampages, given all the scandals.'

    '"They've done so much damage to their reputation that the effectiveness of any NRA statements in really swaying opinion has to be considered diminished," said Rob Pincus, a longtime NRA member and firearms instructor who founded a group calling for LaPierre's resignation. "Anything that gets said by Wayne LaPierre is going to be followed by 'amidst turmoil over $300,000 in suits and a $6 million mansion they were going to buy him,' and all these other allegations that are out there."'

    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    The NRA in Trouble?
    The NRA will be around when you and I are no longer memories!
    Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
      The NRA in Trouble?
      The NRA will be around when you and I are no longer memories!
      And, if that turns out to be true, it is a great shame.
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #4
        666

        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
          666

          You could add specifying what is street legal. I can drive my car but if I tried to take a tank down the high street I'd get my collar felt only the military could do that.
          Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
          Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Massena View Post

            And, if that turns out to be true, it is a great shame.
            How is it the NRA's fault that a left and right wingnuts murdered people?

            When is the left going to learn that the individual pulling the trigger is responsible?
            "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Massena View Post

              And, if that turns out to be true, it is a great shame.
              That immense power? It's called millions of Conservative voters that are members of the NRA including me as well as many million more law abiding citizens that happen to be gun owners.

              Continue to blame us for what happened last week and every weekend in Chicago.
              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...19/1334351001/
              After all, according to the Trump hating media, it is never the fault of the mentally ill individual that pulls the trigger, or for that matter, kills with a knife or hammer.
              https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-knife-attacks
              “Breaking News,”

              “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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              • #8
                As it turns out, the NRA is having financial problems and is undoubtedly corrupt which is why the organization is being investigated. I don't care for the NRA, Lapierre or that other crowd. The organizations last piece of respectability died with Charlton Heston.

                And as I'm a gun owner, including a replica 1795 Springfield musket as well as an AR-15, I have a certain expertise in small arms.

                We are not now that strength which in old days
                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                  How is it the NRA's fault that a left and right wingnuts murdered people?

                  When is the left going to learn that the individual pulling the trigger is responsible?
                  When idiots realise that the people who made money by encouraging them to have a trigger to pull are accessories
                  Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                  Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MarkV View Post

                    When idiots realise that the people who made money by encouraging them to have a trigger to pull are accessories
                    This is no different than blaming the liquor industry for drunk driving. Are the owners of Jim Beam also accessories anytime someone gets behind the wheel intoxicated? They made money afterall.....
                    You'll live, only the best get killed.

                    -General Charles de Gaulle

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                    • #11
                      The NRA's 'voice' should not be respected at all-especially because of the current power struggle in the organization and the investigation for financial 'irregularities.'

                      Trump is bought and paid for by the NRA as is Moscow Mitch.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                      'U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is on board with taking legislative action to address gun background checks, adding that there was tremendous support for common sense action.
                      '

                      Trump has said something similar before after a shooting, and nothing happened. So, don't hold your breath...
                      We are not now that strength which in old days
                      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                      • #12
                        Trump is scared of the NRA:

                        https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/polit...nra/index.html

                        'As President Donald Trump weighs legislative and executive options to address gun violence in the US, his own instinct to expand background checks is butting up against intense pressure from gun rights advocates, who are pressuring him that such a move would harm him politically.''

                        'When Trump delivered prepared remarks to a nation mourning two mass shootings last weekend, he proposed "red flag" laws, which enable family members and authorities to get court orders to keep potentially dangerous relatives from having access to firearms, but did not mention specific measures to more broadly limit access to firearms.'

                        'Since then, however,Trump has said expanding background checks makes sense and that he believes most people agree with him. A Quinnipiac poll from March found 73% of registered voters thought "more needs to be done to address gun violence" in the United States, including majorities across parties (95% of Democrats, 74% of independents and 52% of Republicans). That poll also found 86% in support of the background check bill passed by the House, described as requiring "background checks on all gun sales, including those at gun shows and through online retailers."'

                        'Trump on Friday morning indicated support for tightening background checks, but also noted his close ties to the National Rifle Association, which has come out against expanding background check systems.'
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                          How is it the NRA's fault that a left and right wingnuts murdered people?

                          When is the left going to learn that the individual pulling the trigger is responsible?
                          The NRA is against what 80+% of Americans want. The NRA is against mental health checks. The NRA is the largest lobbyist on capitol hill.

                          The NRA is in deep trouble, good riddance. Everything the NRA tells you is designed to frighten and scare the audience.

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                          • #14
                            Absolutely correct-very well said.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by asterix View Post

                              This is no different than blaming the liquor industry for drunk driving. Are the owners of Jim Beam also accessories anytime someone gets behind the wheel intoxicated? They made money afterall.....
                              The left never knows or cared about the consequences of their actions the only thing they know is that something has to change, that is unless it is one of their failed vote grabbing Santa Claus programs.

                              The problema of drunk driving and smoking have been dramatically reduced by social censor. The problem of young men and random violence could be reduced by less leftist spiteful social structure and a return to "normal" attitudes of personal responsibility .

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