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    Trump has ignored the threat of domestic terror from day 1:

    White House officials rebuffed efforts by their colleagues at the Department of Homeland Security for more than a year to make combating domestic terror threats, such as those from white supremacists, a greater priority as specifically spelled out in the National Counterterrorism Strategy, current and former senior administration officials as well as other sources close to the Trump administration tell CNN.

    "Homeland Security officials battled the White House for more than a year to get them to focus more on domestic terrorism," one senior source close to the Trump administration tells CNN. "The White House wanted to focus only on the jihadist threat which, while serious, ignored the reality that racial supremacist violence was rising fast here at home. They had major ideological blinders on."
    The National Counterterrorism Strategy, issued last fall, states that "Radical Islamist terrorists remain the primary transnational terrorist threat to the United States and its vital national interests," which few experts dispute. What seems glaring to these officials is the minimizing of the threat of domestic terrorism, which they say was on their radar as a growing problem.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/polit...ism/index.html

    In addition to crippling organizations who were trying to stop it.

    Set aside the question of whether President Donald Trump’s rhetorical flirtations with white nationalism enabled Saturday’s mass shooting in Pittsburgh. What’s undeniable is that his administration has hobbled the infrastructure designed to prevent such murders.

    In the waning days of Barack Obama’s administration, the Department of Homeland Security awarded a set of grants to organizations working to counter violent extremism, including among white supremacists. One of the grantees was Life After Hate, which The Hill has called “one of the only programs in the U.S. devoted to helping people leave neo-Nazi and other white supremacy groups.” Another grant went to researchers at the University of North Carolinawho were helping young people develop media campaigns aimed at preventing their peers from embracing white supremacy and other violent ideologies. But soon after Trump took office, his administration canceled both of these grants. In its first budget, it requested no funding for any grants in this field.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rogram/574237/
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

  • #2
    You cannot coexist with people who do not want to be coexisted with.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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    • #3
      Still asking the tough question. Aside from reinstating the grants mentioned, and forwarding similar ones, what other concrete solutions can anyone propose to "defeat this evil"? It would seem we have solidly been able to name or identify the problem. What should be done??

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
        Trump has ignored the threat of domestic terror from day 1:



        https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/polit...ism/index.html

        In addition to crippling organizations who were trying to stop it.



        https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rogram/574237/
        Given the origine and bias of these sources .........

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        • #5
          If you don't agree with it, or you refuse to believe it, then find and post something that refutes it. Your sourcing is usually just a little thin with little or no analysis on your part.

          https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/polit...ism/index.html

          'White House officials rebuffed efforts by their colleagues at the Department of Homeland Security for more than a year to make combating domestic terror threats, such as those from white supremacists, a greater priority as specifically spelled out in the National Counterterrorism Strategy, current and former senior administration officials as well as other sources close to the Trump administration tell CNN.'
          '"Homeland Security officials battled the White House for more than a year to get them to focus more on domestic terrorism," one senior source close to the Trump administration tells CNN. "The White House wanted to focus only on the jihadist threat which, while serious, ignored the reality that racial supremacist violence was rising fast here at home. They had major ideological blinders on."'

          'The National Counterterrorism Strategy, issued last fall, states that "Radical Islamist terrorists remain the primary transnational terrorist threat to the United States and its vital national interests," which few experts dispute. What seems glaring to these officials is the minimizing of the threat of domestic terrorism, which they say was on their radar as a growing problem.'

          '"Ultimately the White House just added one paragraph about domestic terrorism as a throw-away line," a senior source involved in the discussion told CNN. That paragraph mentions "other forms of violent extremism, such as racially motivated extremism, animal rights extremism, environmental extremism, sovereign citizen extremism, and militia extremism." It made no mention of white supremacists. (A separate paragraph in the report mentions investigating domestic terrorists with connections to overseas terrorists, but that does not seem to be a reference to white supremacists.)'
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
            Trump has ignored the threat of domestic terror from day 1:
            Actually, he hasn't ignored the threat from domestic terrorism. Read page 10 of the National Strategy that is linked in you post. Then read the rest of the document.

            CNN is not a good source, they reference the document and then twists the story to fit their agenda. It appears that they hope people won't bother to read the National Strategy document.
            "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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            • #7
              How was the story by CNN 'twisted'?

              Making the accusation without any demonstration of the agenda that you support is not evidence-it is merely opinion-in this case biased opinion.
              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Massena View Post
                How was the story by CNN 'twisted'?

                Making the accusation without any demonstration of the agenda that you support is not evidence-it is merely opinion-in this case biased opinion.
                I clearly stated how they twisted it and I also referenced the page in the National Strategy document that calls out domestic terrorism. The first 10 pages of the document give the 'who' the following pages gice the 'how' it is to be combatted.

                I didn't make an accusation, I posted facts based off of how CNN reported it and what the National Strategy document says. What I posted was not opinion based, what CNN did was leave out mentioning page 10.... the results of that lead to misleading threads like this. CNN twisted the facts...again.

                "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                • #9
                  Your opinion of how CNN 'twisted' the article and story. You haven't demonstrated any proof at all and are merely taking a shot at CNN because you believe it to be a 'liberal' news service.

                  Perhaps you could explain what you mean by liberal or what your understanding is. May I remind you that the United States was founded as a liberal republic that eventually came to be a liberal democracy and that the Founders were the liberals of their day.
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Massena View Post
                    Your opinion of how CNN 'twisted' the article and story. You haven't demonstrated any proof at all and are merely taking a shot at CNN because you believe it to be a 'liberal' news service.
                    Check the title of this thread....it is misleading.

                    Check the reporting that CNN did...it is misleading.

                    Finally read the National Strategy document that is linked in the article. Again, page 10 clearly calls out domestic terrorism. It is facts not opinion that I am discussing.

                    Had CNN included the domestic terrorism that is called out in the document....they wouldn't have a story, we wouldn't have this thread.

                    There comes a time when people really need to apply critical thinking.
                    "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                      There comes a time when people really need to apply critical thinking.
                      Once again there is no supporting evidence for your conclusions except an opinion.

                      Critical thinking is indeed necessary and not blind devotion or obedience to a corrupt president.

                      We are not now that strength which in old days
                      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Massena View Post

                        Once again there is no supporting evidence for your conclusions except an opinion.

                        Critical thinking is indeed necessary and not blind devotion or obedience to a corrupt president.
                        Again, page 10 of the National Strategy document that is linked in the article clearly calls out domestic terrorism....not an opinion, that is a fact. CNN has twisted the news to fit their agenda again.
                        "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                        • #13
                          Didn't CNN state that there was a paragraph dedicated to domestic terrorism and that was put in as an afterthought?
                          '"Ultimately the White House just added one paragraph about domestic terrorism as a throw-away line," a senior source involved in the discussion told CNN. That paragraph mentions "other forms of violent extremism, such as racially motivated extremism, animal rights extremism, environmental extremism, sovereign citizen extremism, and militia extremism." It made no mention of white supremacists. (A separate paragraph in the report mentions investigating domestic terrorists with connections to overseas terrorists, but that does not seem to be a reference to white supremacists.)'

                          Keep defending a corrupt and incompetent administration-it's your right.
                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            Didn't CNN state that there was a paragraph dedicated to domestic terrorism and that was put in as an afterthought?
                            Do you honestly think CNN was a part of writing the National Strategy document?

                            "put in as an afterthought" how could they possibly know that?

                            Again CNN is twisting the story to fit their agenda. The National Strategy document calls out domestic terrorism and actions to take to combat it. There is no "Terrorist Sympathizers" as CNN and this thread wants us to believe.

                            "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                            • #15
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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