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  • DNI Dan Coats is Leaving...

    And Trump attempted to replace him with a political hack:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dan-coats-spoke-truth-to-trump-now-hes-out/ar-AAEZntb?ocid=spartandhp
    'Dan Coats attracted President Donald Trumpís ire on more than one occasion as the director of national intelligence, describing assessments on issues from Russia to North Korea that contradicted Trumpís own. On Sunday night, his time in office came to an end: Trump said, via Twitter, that Coats was stepping down, to be replaced by Republican Representative John Ratcliffe.'

    Ratcliffe has no experience for the job, was essentially not vetted for the posting, and his only qualification seems to be his five minute diatribe during the Mueller hearing.

    Where are 'the best people'?


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-trumps-new-intelligence-chief-pick-john-ratcliffe-attacked-mueller/ar-AAF1yBu?ocid=spartandhp
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    The DNI has been political since the beginning.
    "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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    • #3
      Not like the way Trump is attempting to use it.

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/dan-coats-angus-king-cnntv/index.html
      'Independent Sen. Angus King on Tuesday warned against the possible dismissal of Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats for contradicting President Donald Trump during a congressional hearing.'
      '"If in fact Dan Coats is pushed out, which I deeply hope isn't the case because he's a great public servant, but if he is, the message is 'Don't give me the facts,'" King told CNN's John Berman on "New Day."'

      'The comments from King, who represents Maine, came just a day after Chris Ruddy, a longtime Trump confidant, suggested the intelligence official may be fired by the President. Last month, Coats and other intelligence chiefs appeared to contradict Trump on national security issues in testimony to Congress. Sources told CNN that the President singled out Coats for criticism the next morning.'

      '"I'm hearing from sources around the White House there's just general disappointment of the President with Director Coats. There's a feeling that maybe there needs to be a change of leadership in that position," Ruddy told CNN's Christiane Amanpour on Monday.''Ruddy said that he doesn't know what Trump's plan is, but that he has "talked to various people, not him, that are very close in the White House with the security positions the President is taking."'
      '"And I think generally there's a deep concern that on the eve of the North Korea (summit) to have your director of national intelligence in open hearings undercutting your position was very bad form," he said.'
      'King told Berman that he believes Coats is an "honest, upright, thoughtful guy."'

      The problem here is that Trump cannot stand to be disagreed with or to be given information with which he disagrees. I'll bet that it's loads of fun to try and brief Trump on anything. A staff officer's job is to tell the boss the truth, no matter what happens. And in this case, the boss is singularly ignorant of intelligence, the agencies, and what their job is. They serve the person in the White House regardless of party affiliation. But here you have a president who wants personal loyalty, which is not part of the equation, and Trump can't stand it and does not understand the issues.



      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-senators-slam-ratcliffes-nomination-for-intel-chief/ar-AAF1fkI?ocid=spartandhp

      'Sen. Chris Murphy on Monday dismissed Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas), President Donald Trump's nominee to become the next director of national intelligence, as a 'television character' who is an 'inappropriate choice' for the historically nonpartisan post.'

      ''I don't know this guy,' Murphy (D-Conn.) said on MSNBC. 'I think he's a television character that the president has watched on TV, and he wants to put somebody in this position who's going to agree with his political take on intelligence.''

      'The president on Sunday announced his plans to tap Ratcliffe to replace Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, who will step down on Aug. 15. The Texas congressman had reportedly been a top candidate for the role, and Trump last week praised his combative questioning of Robert Mueller during the former special counsel's appearance on Capitol Hill.'


      ''I'll certainly do my own evaluation, but it strikes me as a very inappropriate choice for the job in a moment when we are trying to lift intelligence out of the political soup,' Murphy said, accusing Ratcliffe of acting as 'one of the president's accomplices in trying to politicize intelligence.''

      'Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) on Monday also predicted broad Democratic resistance to the administrationís efforts to confirm Ratcliffe, a former U.S. attorney and mayor of the roughly 8,000-person town of Heath, Texas.'

      ''I'm not sure he's qualified for the job,' Peters told CNN.'

      ''The president doesn't want people to challenge him, and when you think about an intelligence director, you want independent advice,' he added. 'You want to have the best available intelligence to make decisions that are based on facts and reality. That is not something our current president wants.''

      Ratcliffe is totally unqualified for the job and Trump is a buffoon for the attempted nomination.


      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-senators-give-tepid-response-to-john-ratcliffe-trumps-pick-for-spy-chief/ar-AAF1srM?ocid=spartandhp
      'President Donald Trump's

      choice of Rep. John Ratcliffe
      to replace respected former Sen. Dan Coats as Director of National Intelligence in one of the most powerful and sensitive jobs in government, has gotten a tepid response to this point from Republican senators, signaling the Texas Republican,

      a Trump loyalist who lacks intelligence experience
      , could face a fight to be confirmed.'




      'Of the handful of GOP senators who put out public statements about the change, they all praised the professionalism and integrity of the departing Coats, but not one has mentioned -- much less embraced --Ratcliffe.'

      'This includes Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and two GOP members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Roy Blunt of Missouri and Susan Collins of Maine.'

      Even Moscow Mitch didn't care for Trump's choice for DNI to succeed Coats.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/some-officials-fear-trump-will-get-the-intelligence-he-wants-not-the-intelligence-he-needs-from-dni-pick/ar-AAF32Bj?ocid=spartandhp

      'President Trumpís plan to nominate a political ally as director of national intelligence was seen by current and former officials as a move to subdue spy agencies that he has long regarded as disloyal, and silence one of the few pockets of occasional dissent in his administration.
      '

      It's very clear that Trump only wants 'yes-men' to work for him, not anyone who will tell the truth no matter how unpleasant it is.
      Last edited by Massena; 06 Aug 19, 15:44.
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #4
        https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/polit...rch/index.html
        'The White House has gone back to the drawing board in its search for a new nominee to be the nation's top intelligence official after President Donald Trump's first choice, Rep. John Ratcliffe, abruptly withdrew from consideration last week.'
        'While priorities have shifted in the wake of last weekend's mass shootings in Texas and Ohio, sources familiar with the deliberations told CNN that a wide array of potential candidates to replace outgoing Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats are under consideration and the President is once again seeking input from aides and allies.'

        'Several new names have surfaced in recent days, including former NSA director Mike Rogers and former Georgia Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, according to a source familiar. Peter Hoekstra, Trump's current ambassador to the Netherlands, also remains in contention, multiple sources told CNN.'

        Admiral Mike Rogers would be an excellent choice.
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #5
          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

          'Schiff's statement follows the resignation announcements of Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats last month and Deputy Director of National Intelligence Sue Gordon Tuesday.'

          '"The retirements of Dan Coats and Sue Gordon represent a devastating loss to the Intelligence Community, and the men and women who serve in it," Schiff said. "Gordon brought decades of experience and encyclopedic knowledge of the agencies to bear, and her absence will leave a great void."'
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

          Comment


          • #6
            The DNI is a political appointment .and there is no need for a CIA agent to become DNI . The CIA is only one of US 17 spy agencies,and given the hostility of the CIA to the potus, there is no reason for the potus to appoint a CIA agent as DNI .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ljadw View Post
              The DNI is a political appointment .and there is no need for a CIA agent to become DNI . The CIA is only one of US 17 spy agencies,and given the hostility of the CIA to the potus, there is no reason for the potus to appoint a CIA agent as DNI .
              The DNI should have an intelligence background. And the US has no spy agencies-they are intelligence agencies. Only the adversaries of the US refer to them incorrectly as spy agencies.

              Service in the CIA is a benefit for any future DNI. And the DNI is the chief intelligence officer in the US. Service with and knowledge of the US intelligence services are crucial for anyone appointed as DNI.

              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Massena View Post

                The DNI should have an intelligence background. And the US has no spy agencies-they are intelligence agencies. Only the adversaries of the US refer to them incorrectly as spy agencies.

                Service in the CIA is a benefit for any future DNI. And the DNI is the chief intelligence officer in the US. Service with and knowledge of the US intelligence services are crucial for anyone appointed as DNI.
                Coats was no spy agent . Thus ...
                US are calling the intelligence agencies of their opponents spy agencies ,and their opponents call US intelligence services spy agencies .
                The CIA was ( is ? ) eavesdropping on the German chancellor : this is spying. Michael Hayden : USA do conduct espionage .
                The CIA is only ONE of 17 US spy agencies, thus it has no right to claim the function of DNI.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Massena View Post

                  The DNI should have an intelligence background. And the US has no spy agencies-they are intelligence agencies. Only the adversaries of the US refer to them incorrectly as spy agencies.

                  Service in the CIA is a benefit for any future DNI. And the DNI is the chief intelligence officer in the US. Service with and knowledge of the US intelligence services are crucial for anyone appointed as DNI.
                  The only requirement for the position is prior military background. Of all the previous DNI's, only 2 had previous intelligence experience. Mike McConnell, appointed by Bush, who was a former Vice Admiral and head of the NSA for 4 years, and the most qualified, Mike Dempsey, who was appointed by Trump.

                  "Dempsey began his intelligence career with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1990 and has served in a number of management and analytical positions there, including Deputy Director of the Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, Arms Control Center (WINPAC), as well as Deputy Associate Director for Military Affairs. He also served as Deputy CIA Representative to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Director of Western Hemisphere Affairs at the United States National Security Council (NSC)."

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike..._(intelligence)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Blackhat View Post

                    The only requirement for the position is prior military background. Of all the previous DNI's, only 2 had previous intelligence experience. Mike McConnell, appointed by Bush, who was a former Vice Admiral and head of the NSA for 4 years, and the most qualified, Mike Dempsey, who was appointed by Trump.

                    "Dempsey began his intelligence career with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1990 and has served in a number of management and analytical positions there, including Deputy Director of the Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, Arms Control Center (WINPAC), as well as Deputy Associate Director for Military Affairs. He also served as Deputy CIA Representative to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Director of Western Hemisphere Affairs at the United States National Security Council (NSC)."

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike..._(intelligence)
                    By Trump's reckoning, no military or intelligence background is necessary as witness his nomination of Ratcliffe.
                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post

                      By Trump's reckoning, no military or intelligence background is necessary as witness his nomination of Ratcliffe.
                      I misspoke about military service being a "requirement".

                      Under 50 U.S.C. ß 403-3a, "under ordinary circumstances, it is desirable" that either the director or the principal deputy director of National Intelligence be an active-duty commissioned officer in the armed forces or have training or experience in military intelligence activities and requirements.
                      As for needing neither, again, only 2 prior directors have had any intelligence experience or background. There is also this part to consider with regard to the position of Director/Deputy Director...

                      Only one of the two positions can be held by a military officer at any given time.
                      (same code)

                      Personally, I think acting Director Maguire is a solid choice.

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                      • #12
                        Given the current state of affairs in our intelligence community and the FBI, it would be prudent to remember this important role the DNI fills....

                        Further, by Presidential Policy Directive 19 signed by Barack Obama in October 2012, the DNI was given overall responsibility for Intelligence Community whistleblowing and source protection.

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                        • #13
                          https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/polit...ing/index.html

                          '
                          The circumstances surrounding Gordon's resignation, including the role Coats appears to have played in the timing of her announcement, seem to indicate she was forced out for political reasons.
                          '

                          'Gordon's abrupt departure, with only one week's notice, and Trump's longstanding hostility toward the intelligence community -- which he has publicly derided, likened to Nazis and disagreed with -- is likely to heighten concerns that the President may be trying to politicize agencies that are meant to stand apart from partisanship or politicking.'

                          'Intelligence professionals emphasize the need to keep politics out of their work in order to offer policy makers the clearest assessment they can of threats and opportunities.'

                          'Yet, Trump has made clear his desire to bring to heel US intelligence agencies, which have produced evidence he disagrees with on Iran, North Korea, Russia's interference in US elections and other issues.'
                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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