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  • San Francisco waste 600k removing George Washington mural

    The Obama promise to fundamentally change our nation continues in San Francisco today, with the removal of a historic mural of George Washington, the war on our history is in full swing.

    [https://www.apnews.com/9f3037c7ec9d48a286059ac8f9975afe

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — San Francisco will spend up to $600,000 to paint over historical artwork at a public school depicting the life of George Washington, a mural once seen as educational and innovative but now criticized as racist and degrading for its depiction of black and Native American people.

    The “Life of Washington” was painted by Victor Arnautoff, one of the foremost muralists in the San Francisco area during the Depression. The San Francisco School Board’s decision to paint over the 83-year-old mural is prompting some to worry that other artwork from the so-called New Deal era could face a similar fate because of changing sensitivities.
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    How does a New Deal era mural relate to Mr. Obama?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
      The Obama promise to fundamentally change our nation continues in San Francisco today, with the removal of a historic mural of George Washington, the war on our history is in full swing.

      [https://www.apnews.com/9f3037c7ec9d48a286059ac8f9975afe
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      • #4
        Get woke go broke. In this case it is not a financial loss but a historical loss.

        I can fully understand why nationalism needs to be tempered with nuance and the pain of an identity associated with slavery and jim crow can leave scars for many generations. That said the fact that our founding fathers were slave owners should be used as an educational opportunity not have their existence erased.

        As the U.S. In general and California quietly go broke now is not the time to embrace a liberal agenda that has failed to deliver on it's promises. The best example of failed but we'll meaning programs is Head Start. Empathy is no solution to incompetence. The educational system, especially in California has proven to be just that, incompetent. In a perfect world good intentions would not lead to undesirable consequences. What empathy has given us is the soft bigotry of low expectations and the children in the California school system suffer the consequences.

        We have become a society dominated by openness but openness has an evil twin low conscientiousness. As soon as you decide that social issues need an immediate fix you are as doomed to failure as the kids who didn't pass the marshmallow test.

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        Liberal sociologists have been trying to undo the validity of the marshmallow test for years stressing factors such as low expectations of social fidelity and family and community conditions. Just one more example of her woke go broke. Does it really matter what the source of low self regulation is? Certainly the answer is not motherly smothering.
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        • #5
          Americaphobia keeps on getting stronger in the US at this rate hardly anyone will know American history before the 1960’s in a few decades.

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              Originally posted by Trung Si View Post

              I am sure that in the future, public figures will be condemned and their monuments demolished because the honoree used plastic straws or smoked tobacco in their private life.
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              • #8
                Who is to blame for America's dark history? Germany erased their past to create a new future, why can't America do the same.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                  Who is to blame for America's dark history? Germany erased their past to create a new future, why can't America do the same.
                  The harder they try, the greater the history they are trying to hide is spotlighted.

                  Wont't be long before the dark history of blacks and Amerinds is spotlighted, at this rate.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    The harder they try, the greater the history they are trying to hide is spotlighted.

                    Wont't be long before the dark history of blacks and Amerinds is spotlighted, at this rate.
                    Removing monuments of Hitler doesn't change or hide Germany's history, not in the slightest, nor is that the goal. But it does offer the Jewish people of Germany some form of unity, to show them that they're moving forward together and not allowing their past to misguide them. It also allows the Jewish community to live their daily life in normalcy, or as close to it as possible as bigotry is still an issue there. Accountability matters. I understand however that this is not the goal of most Americans. American culture past and present makes coexistence impossible.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                      Who is to blame for America's dark history? Germany erased their past to create a new future, why can't America do the same.
                      We could start with black history month because most black slaves were sold into slavery by fellow Africans. We certainly would have to erase Muslims from history because of the Indian genocide and or doctrinal patriarchy. Mexico would have to get rid of it's flag because of Aztec symbolism and the mass human sacrifice it is associated with. The entire history of communist China would need to go. The very concept of human rights would have to go because it was a product of the white, patriarchal enlightenment.

                      Germany didn't get rid of their past they just repackaged it to support a new form of tyranny. The left is simply incapable of processing the fact that socialism has killed more people than Nazism.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

                        We could start with black history month because most black slaves were sold into slavery by fellow Africans. We certainly would have to erase Muslims from history because of the Indian genocide and or doctrinal patriarchy. Mexico would have to get rid of it's flag because of Aztec symbolism and the mass human sacrifice it is associated with. The entire history of communist China would need to go. The very concept of human rights would have to go because it was a product of the white, patriarchal enlightenment.

                        Germany didn't get rid of their past they just repackaged it to support a new form of tyranny. The left is simply incapable of processing the fact that socialism has killed more people than Nazism.

                        What mural of a black American should be removed and why?

                        Seems there is always deflection anytime accountability is needed.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                          What mural of a black American should be removed and why?

                          Seems there is always deflection anytime accountability is needed.
                          I'll bite!

                          Let's start with this one of a racist, bigoted, separatist-- Louis Farrakhan



                          Toss in one of Malcom X...?



                          How about some of the New Black Panthers





                          Or this masterpiece of hate in LA:




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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                            I'll bite!

                            Let's start with this one of a racist, bigoted, separatist-- Louis Farrakhan



                            Toss in one of Malcom X...?



                            How about some of the New Black Panthers





                            Or this masterpiece of hate in LA:



                            I agree these should be removed as well. I don't find it offensive to not celebrate abhorrent people like Louis Farrakhan who happened to be black. I don't know the current dynamic of the new black panthers to speak on that. Either way, that is not an attack on black history. I have more to celebrate than people who were divisive or racist. For some reason whites see the removal of murals of specific individuals who held ideologies that were inhumane as an attack against all whites. It makes me question how strongly you identify with slavery and oppression.
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                            • #15
                              What moral justification was there for slavery? Certainly less justification than those fighting against white supremacy. So the best comparison you have to a slave owner are people who were opposed to it. Who are the good guys in such a battle?
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