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  • Urban hermit
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    Post deleted and thread locked.
    Failure to heed previous warning to stay on topic and avoid personal sniping was ignored.

    ACG Staff.
    Last edited by Achtung Baby; 21 Jun 19, 04:38.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    Hope Hicks verifies under oath that Trump said he would use foreign influence in elections:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    'Hope Hicks, once a close aide to President Donald Trump, told the House Judiciary Committee that Trump was serious in saying there was nothing wrong in accepting derogatory information about political opponents from a foreign government, panel Chairman Jerrold Nadler said on Thursday.'

    '"Ms. Hicks made clear that she understood the president to be serious when he said that he would accept foreign interference in our elections," Nadler said in a statement for a hearing on former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.'

    '"She also made clear that even she knew that such foreign assistance should be rejected and reported to the FBI," he said.'



    'The committee later heard from an expert witness who said Trump's remarks about accepting foreign assistance, made in an ABC News interview, could violate the presidential oath of office and provide evidence for any future impeachment inquiry.'

    '"Receiving foreign assistance has been recognized throughout the entire history of the country as something that is counter to and undermines the Constitution," said Carrie Cordero, a conservative attorney who is a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security think tank.'

    '"That is an invitation ... to Russian intelligence and any other intelligence service thatís out there that wants to try to find a way to influence our democratic processes," she added.'


    Quod Erat Demonstratdum.

    Trump has a lot to answer for.
    And from post #98;
    ...
    EXCERPT/QUOTE
    Asked by ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos in the Oval Office on Wednesday whether his campaign would accept such information from foreigners -- such as China or Russia -- or hand it over the FBI, Trump said, "I think maybe you do both."

    "I think you might want to listen, there isn't anything wrong with listening," Trump continued. "If somebody called from a country, Norway, [and said] Ďwe have information on your opponent' -- oh, I think I'd want to hear it."

    President Trump made the remark during an exclusive interview with ABC News over the course of two days, wherein Stephanopoulos joined the president on a visit to Iowa and back to Washington for a day inside the White House.
    ...
    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/think-d-ex...opstories.html

    Again, the more important issue and questions would be;
    1) Why is there "damaging information"/"dirt" that hasn't been revealed, is being hidden, (by that candidate and their campaign) in the first place?
    2) If such exists why does a foreign nation(insert name) have this and our own Intel people/FBI don't already?
    ...

    So did you overlook this or are you engaging in more disinformation, more LW propaganda?

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    Hope Hicks verifies under oath that Trump said he would use foreign influence in elections:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    'Hope Hicks, once a close aide to President Donald Trump, told the House Judiciary Committee that Trump was serious in saying there was nothing wrong in accepting derogatory information about political opponents from a foreign government, panel Chairman Jerrold Nadler said on Thursday.'

    '"Ms. Hicks made clear that she understood the president to be serious when he said that he would accept foreign interference in our elections," Nadler said in a statement for a hearing on former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.'

    '"She also made clear that even she knew that such foreign assistance should be rejected and reported to the FBI," he said.'



    'The committee later heard from an expert witness who said Trump's remarks about accepting foreign assistance, made in an ABC News interview, could violate the presidential oath of office and provide evidence for any future impeachment inquiry.'

    '"Receiving foreign assistance has been recognized throughout the entire history of the country as something that is counter to and undermines the Constitution," said Carrie Cordero, a conservative attorney who is a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security think tank.'

    '"That is an invitation ... to Russian intelligence and any other intelligence service thatís out there that wants to try to find a way to influence our democratic processes," she added.'


    Quod Erat Demonstratdum.

    Trump has a lot to answer for.
    Again, from post #90 of this thread;

    Once again, the issue isn't whom or what source provides the "dirt"; but that there is "dirt" to be revealed (or hidden) to begin with!

    Why is it alright with some of you that a political candidate should be allowed to hide from the voting public incriminating evidence of disreputable behavings, connections, entanglements by said candidate?

    Why does the source and/or method of revelation matter more than that such has to be revealed from other than the principal implicated?

    Some of you are condoning deceiving and misleading the public and voters rather than providing essential truths that should be known, hence you are the ones placing National Security at risk; you are the ones being traitorous and seditious.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Supporting our enemies to the detriment of the country. I find it amazing that you and others still support Trump, who has proven himself both amoral and now traitorous.
    No where near as much as the Clintons, Obama, or Biden.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Clearly you did not read what I wrote, I didn't mention Trump.
    You don't have to. Your meaning was quite clear.

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  • Massena
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    Hope Hicks verifies under oath that Trump said he would use foreign influence in elections:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    'Hope Hicks, once a close aide to President Donald Trump, told the House Judiciary Committee that Trump was serious in saying there was nothing wrong in accepting derogatory information about political opponents from a foreign government, panel Chairman Jerrold Nadler said on Thursday.'

    '"Ms. Hicks made clear that she understood the president to be serious when he said that he would accept foreign interference in our elections," Nadler said in a statement for a hearing on former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.'

    '"She also made clear that even she knew that such foreign assistance should be rejected and reported to the FBI," he said.'



    'The committee later heard from an expert witness who said Trump's remarks about accepting foreign assistance, made in an ABC News interview, could violate the presidential oath of office and provide evidence for any future impeachment inquiry.'

    '"Receiving foreign assistance has been recognized throughout the entire history of the country as something that is counter to and undermines the Constitution," said Carrie Cordero, a conservative attorney who is a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security think tank.'

    '"That is an invitation ... to Russian intelligence and any other intelligence service thatís out there that wants to try to find a way to influence our democratic processes," she added.'


    Quod Erat Demonstratdum.

    Trump has a lot to answer for.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
    Was she writing about the October 25, 2017
    complaint
    filed against the Democratic National Committee and Hillary for America that pointed to Clinton using Perkins Coie to use foreigners to help the Clinton campaign defeat Trump? Of course not! You see, when Clinton uses foreigners to meddle in elections, all the really smart people argue itís
    perfectly legal
    . When Trump hypothetically entertains the same idea in a recent ABC News interview, heís an ď
    enemy of the state
    But there are no political double-standards in the USA of today ...

    The American Form Of Government
    https://youtu.be/VogzExP3qhI

    Also, note thread title;
    Trump "says", but no meaningful prove he has done yet ...

    Second, he said he might listen to such information, but "would do both" in reporting such to relevant Fed Agencies, chain, etc.

    Third, we have another Loonie-Left Trump Derangers "faked news" taking a later quote out of context and presenting a distortion that fits their delusions = Leftist propaganda.

    Fourth, we have a recent candidate precedent via the H. Clinton campaign and their paying for and soliciting an "incriminating" report to besmirch Trump during the election of 2016. In essence engaged in collusion with foreign interests and guv'mints ("the Russians") to "influence" the 2016 POTUS election. ~ That political double standard advanced by some elements of our society.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Anthrax View Post
    Our democracy has jumped the shark.
    We are a Republic, not a Democracy ...
    The American Form Of Government
    https://youtu.be/VogzExP3qhI

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    They serve the nation and take their oath of service to the US Constitution. Since that is the oath of service I took, I haven't forgotten anything. The libertarian propaganda that you post is interesting, but it is just that-propaganda.
    QUOTE:
    ...
    Libertarianism (from Latin: libertas, meaning "freedom") is a collection of political philosophies and movements that uphold liberty as a core principle.[1] Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association, and individual judgment.[2][3][4] Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing political and economic systems. Various schools of libertarian thought offer a range of views regarding the legitimate functions of state and private power, often calling for the restriction or dissolution of coercive social institutions.[5]
    ...
    ~~~...Modern right-libertarian ideologies, such as minarchism and anarcho-capitalism, co-opted the term in the mid-20th century to instead advocate laissez-faire capitalism and strong private property rights such as in land, infrastructure and natural resources.[10][11][12]
    ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Would seem to put me just right of center then.
    Puts you where ... ???

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  • Trung Si
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    Was she writing about the October 25, 2017
    complaint
    filed against the Democratic National Committee and Hillary for America that pointed to Clinton using Perkins Coie to use foreigners to help the Clinton campaign defeat Trump? Of course not! You see, when Clinton uses foreigners to meddle in elections, all the really smart people argue itís
    perfectly legal
    . When Trump hypothetically entertains the same idea in a recent ABC News interview, heís an ď
    enemy of the state

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Emtos View Post

    And what is this law ?
    Don't expect a response, he keeps dodging that. Same as he over looks that right at the start of the interview Trump said he'd BOTH listen to and report such to FBI, etc.

    This thread is classic example of "faked news".

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  • Nichols
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Even paying attention to someone trying to solicit support or give 'helpful information' from a foreign government is against the law. Were you never told to report all foreign contacts when you were in the service? We certainly were, especially when I was stationed in DC.
    Listening is not against the law. Acting on what was told might be but it wasn't against the law for the Obama Admistration. They used information from an Australian government person to initiate spying on a US citizen.

    Anyways, the title of the thread is wrong; at no time did Trump say that he would use the information in the OP article.

    No need to pull your service into this.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Nichols View Post

    How is listening to something breaking the law?
    Even paying attention to someone trying to solicit support or give 'helpful information' from a foreign government is against the law. Were you never told to report all foreign contacts when you were in the service? We certainly were, especially when I was stationed in DC.

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  • Emtos
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Not if it is obtained from foreign governments or intelligence services. That is against US law. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
    And what is this law ?

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  • Nichols
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    It is a big deal as it is against the law. Are you advocating that it is OK to break the law?
    How is listening to something breaking the law?

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