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  • #16
    If tomorrow a foreign newspaper has dirt about a potential Democrat candidate, it would not be illegal for Trump to listen to this information, to use it . After all it is a free world .
    What would be illegal is to pay this newspaper for false informations and to use them , something the Democrats have done 3 years ago .
    It all depends on who is taking the initiative .
    3 years ago the daughter of Fidel Castro came to the US to make propaganda for Hillary . The usual suspects here have wisely avoided to comment this news .

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    • #17
      At least he's honest about it, unlike say Hillary who would do the same in a heartbeat then expect to be exonerated when caught because she's a sloppy criminal...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ljadw View Post
        If tomorrow a foreign newspaper has dirt about a potential Democrat candidate, it would not be illegal for Trump to listen to this information, to use it . After all it is a free world .
        What would be illegal is to pay this newspaper for false informations and to use them , something the Democrats have done 3 years ago .
        It all depends on who is taking the initiative .
        3 years ago the daughter of Fidel Castro came to the US to make propaganda for Hillary . The usual suspects here have wisely avoided to comment this news .
        ^ EXACTLY ! ^
        Aside from no specific law mentioned that would be violated, if the "information" was provided freely to public media sources/venues then it's just "fake" news for everyone to consume.
        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Massena View Post

          What?

          The issue is taking information from a foreign state for use in an election against your opponent. Did you not read the OP?
          Something that did Hillary

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Massena View Post

            If information is used from a foreign source to help one side in an election it is against the law in the US.
            NO : it is not.
            It is legal for foreigners to make propaganda in the US to help one side in an election .

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            • #21
              The law said that it is illegal for foreigners to give a candidate ( bribe ) money ,this privilege is reserved to Americans . And the law said also that a candidate can not accept foreign money .
              What the law is not saying,is that foreigners living in the US can not intervene in the campaign . Why ? Because the First Amendment applies also to foreigners .
              Thus: foreigners can give $ 100000 to the NYT to publish a pro Biden ad , but they can not give $ 100000 to Biden to pay for an ad in the NYT .
              As usual legal distinctions are subtle .
              Thus, if a foreigner has dirt about Biden ( which is not difficult ) and tells this to Trump, Trump has the right to listen to it, he is not obliged to cover his ears, and he has the right to tell it to everyone : not only to Melania,or Don jr, but to the American people and the rest of the world .
              What would be illegal, is to do as Hillary did : asking/paying foreigners to produce dirt (false or real ) about Biden .

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                NO : it is not.
                It is legal for foreigners to make propaganda in the US to help one side in an election .
                Yet we do it all the time. News flash, we cheat, they cheat, we all cheat. This fake innocence goes back to time immemorial. That people wrap themselves in a flag and claim that its wrong just shows their hypocrisy or ignorance. I think its the former.

                Bidens raciest quotes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZajDOV32U-Q
                Last edited by Bwaha; 13 Jun 19, 03:41.
                Credo quia absurdum.


                Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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                • #23
                  A 2016 : Hillary receives on her private smartphone a message from Cameron : Dear C (=Crooky, everyone calls Hillary crooky, even Bill ),I have some dirt about Trump (money, women) .Interested ?
                  Hillary answers on her private smartphone : dear PM ( She refuses to say the words Dear Donald ),I am very interested, but it would be better if you did the leaking .
                  And, as there is notyhing for free on this world,C continues : if you are interested, I have some dirt (women and money ) about Boris and Farage .
                  Is what Hillary is doing illegal ?
                  B 2020 : Trump emails to Farage (who is now PM,what caused the emigration of M.Kenny ): Dear PM ( Trump forgot the christian name of Farage )I have some dirt about Boris and comrade Corbyn ( women, money ).If you are interested I will email the details ( 50 pages ) . BTW : do you have some dirt about Pocahontas ? I don't need any about Biden .People are oversaturated . Fox has even a new program : the Biden factor . As one can expect, the answer of Farage is positive : PMs have not many occasions for a good laugh, opposite to a potus who can look at Married with Children, the Simpsons,Abbot and Costello,the Marx Brothers ,especially the scene where Groucho said : even a Democrat can understand this, send me a Democrat and at Congressional Hearings about Democratic dirt .
                  Is what Trump is doing illegal ?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                    At least he's honest about it, unlike say Hillary who would do the same in a heartbeat then expect to be exonerated when caught because she's a sloppy criminal...
                    Honest about breaking the law? Honest about betraying the country? You've got to be kidding.

                    Sorry, almost forgot, you and others here will defend Trump no matter what he does.
                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                      NO : it is not.
                      It is legal for foreigners to make propaganda in the US to help one side in an election .
                      No, it isn't. Why do you think the Mueller investigation was initiated and they found out that the Russians interfered in the US election. And now Trump is inviting them to do it all over again.
                      We are not now that strength which in old days
                      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                      • #26
                        More on the situation created by Trump yesterday:

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                        'The Democrats and the lone Republican hoping to defeat President Trump in 2020 were quick to react to the president's comments that
                        to information from a foreign country that could damage his opponent in the next election. Several candidates used the opportunity to repeat for calls for impeachment, while frontrunner Joe Biden said it was a "threat to our national security."'

                        Trump is a clear and present danger to the United States.
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #27
                          Open to listening.

                          Very far cry from the sort of insanity you're spouting.

                          Also a very far cry from "Manufacturing from whole cloth" which was the entirety of the Trump-Russia 'collusion' fiasco.
                          Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
                            Open to listening.

                            Very far cry from the sort of insanity you're spouting.

                            Also a very far cry from "Manufacturing from whole cloth" which was the entirety of the Trump-Russia 'collusion' fiasco.
                            If you don't agree with the evidence shown, then supply something that negates it. The bottom line is that no matter how much the Trump supporters disagree, they are wrong. We have a president who is willing to break the law and undoubtedly has already done so.

                            And if you have read Volume I of the Mueller Report, the evidence of 'contact' between the Trump campaign and Russians is overwhelming. And so is the Trump campaign's willingness to use material from a hostile foreign power.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #29
                              Wake up Americans.....if your president continues along the same path you may wake up one morning to the sound of "The International" and a differant flag flying........

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                              • #30
                                I think this is another set up by Trump. The media is have a blitz about it, meanwhile the Director of the CIA directed full cooperation with the DOJ as it investigates the origins of the FISA warrants.

                                If proof comes out that the DNC and Clinton paid for or accepted dirt on Trump......how will the media walk back what they are currently sayin g about Trump?
                                "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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