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  • #16
    Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

    Failed president? Radical RW media sure does a number on 'middle America' minds.
    Not as much as the larger radical left wing MSM does.
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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    • #17
      Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

      Not as much as the larger radical left wing MSM does.
      Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc are not left wing.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

        Failure at what? I think you're misinformed.
        For starts;
        un-Affordable Care Act
        Doubling the National Debt
        Taking partisan sides in potential criminal cases (i.e. Trayvon Martin, etc.)
        Increasing racial disunity ...
        ...


        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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        • #19
          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

          For starts;
          un-Affordable Care Act
          Doubling the National Debt
          Taking partisan sides in potential criminal cases (i.e. Trayvon Martin, etc.)
          Increasing racial disunity ...
          ...
          The ACA is more affordable than the alternative
          Large majority of the debt was from 2 wars and bailing out the country from a republican great recession.
          Partisan sides has nothing to do with presidency failure or not. Want me to list some Donald examples?
          The only people who created racial division were people who didn't like the fact the president was half black.
          The country is more divided today

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          • #20
            Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
            The ACA is more affordable than the alternative
            Large majority of the debt was from 2 wars and bailing out the country from a republican great recession.
            Partisan sides has nothing to do with presidency failure or not. Want me to list some Donald examples?
            The only people who created racial division were people who didn't like the fact the president was half black.
            The country is more divided today
            Which illustrates the subjective nature here.
            One sides failure is another side's success.
            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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            • #21
              Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

              Fox, CNN, MSNBC, etc are not left wing.
              Fox still runs even on both sides, CNN and MSNBC lean mostly Left.

              You fail to see this for similar reason that ljadw has his bias.
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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              • #22
                Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                Which illustrates the subjective nature here.
                One sides failure is another side's success.
                But most Americans like the ACA and have saved money compared to before. The only reason the republicans don't like it is because of the pre-existing conditions mandate. That hurts profits.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                  Fox still runs even on both sides, CNN and MSNBC lean mostly Left.

                  You fail to see this for similar reason that ljadw has his bias.
                  Fox is far right wing. CNN and MSNBC do lean left but don't fall into the propaganda category and just making stuff up. That's where Fox is.

                  https://www.businessinsider.com/stud...-at-all-2012-5
                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#3506b28212ab

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

                    But most Americans like the ACA and have saved money compared to before. The only reason the republicans don't like it is because of the pre-existing conditions mandate. That hurts profits.
                    It profits .. to the allies of Obama and Hillary who had invested in their campaigns .

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

                      But most Americans like the ACA and have saved money compared to before. The only reason the republicans don't like it is because of the pre-existing conditions mandate. That hurts profits.
                      ACA hasn't reduced medical care costs, only passed them on to others than those getting the reduced bill. It has resulted in markets having reduced to no insurers and still about the same numbers with no medical insurance.
                      Medical insurance is not a basic right and if insurance companies don't make some form of profit, their shareholders lose and the companies go out of business.

                      You could use some education on basic economics.
                      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                        Fox is far right wing. CNN and MSNBC do lean left but don't fall into the propaganda category and just making stuff up. That's where Fox is.

                        https://www.businessinsider.com/stud...-at-all-2012-5
                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#3506b28212ab
                        The big boss of Fox ( Murdoch ) is pro illegal immigration .
                        Businessinsider and forbes are both liberal media .
                        The Clinton News Network is one of the Democratic propaganda Stations : when they had to interview Trump in 2016, they asked the Democrats for questions they could ask .
                        Of course, for comrade Inevtiab 1 e, all those who are on the right side of comrade Stalin, are far right-wingers, people as Sheperd Smith and Sally Cohn, liberals who work (ed ) at Fox .

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                          The ACA is more affordable than the alternative
                          Large majority of the debt was from 2 wars and bailing out the country from a republican great recession.
                          Partisan sides has nothing to do with presidency failure or not. Want me to list some Donald examples?
                          The only people who created racial division were people who didn't like the fact the president was half black.
                          The country is more divided today
                          And what about those who said that the White Man had to leave America ?Did they not create racial division ?

                          And : what Republican recession ?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MarkV View Post

                            Given that the agreement was originally signed under Bush five years earlier and there was a bi-party agreement over it in Congress and it's Congress not the Administration that passes things yes
                            It was held up due to objections made by labour organisations in the US. The Obama administration discounted the union objections after the Clinton Foundation received a large donation from a prominant Canadian-Colombian businessman. The trade agreement was only ratified after that

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MarkV View Post

                              Do you actually recognise reality?
                              It's far easier to recognize those like yourself who lack the objectivity necessary to recognize reality when they encounter it: TDS'ers, snowflakes, bleeding heart liberals and wanna-be Democratic Socialists.

                              Clearly you have never actually taken a look at Obama;s dismal record in any form of historical context or performance comparison.
                              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                                And what about those who said that the White Man had to leave America ?Did they not create racial division ?

                                And : what Republican recession ?
                                Why are you always playing the race card? Everything has to be about race. So you think a handful of people in America represent ALL of America? Source your information.

                                The Great Bushy Recession, 2nd worst in American history. The 2nd slowest recovery rate. The 1st being the great depression.

                                You sound like every conservative. You repeat things from radical media outlets as if it were fact.

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