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  • The Exorcist
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    Everyone will be replaced by a machine.
    Well then, thank goodness for Asteroids and Super-Volcanos, eh?

    Biological life has demonstrated that it is tough & resourceful enough to survive that sort of catastrophe.
    The Grid? Heh, not a chance.

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  • Marmat
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    Originally posted by Salinator View Post

    We had a situation near here in CA that is very similar to what Pruitt described.

    A particular intersection was supposedly dangerous, and cameras were installed to supposedly deter red light runners. This is an intersection that rarely has a pedestrian crossing, it is just a major vehicle crossroad. I actually got caught making a right turn of red from a dedicated right turn lane, why there is even a no right turn on red is against all reasoning as all intersection crossing and left turn lights are regulated, and there are so many lanes that for a left turn to come into contact with a right turn it would involved both drivers incapable of understanding the turning lanes.

    By law, I was allowed to see the video from all the cameras. There I was at a complete stop first up to the crosswalk waiting for the light, It was one of those most moments where the traffic computer had stop ALL traffic and everyone was basically staring each other for 30 seconds. I had anticipated my right turn green arrow and crept up and nudged into the pedestrian crosswalk marker a freaking second before my green as shown by the rolling digital clock. I had to ask them to freeze it and it was LESS THAN ONE second, and they wanted a minimum of $595 fine plus the hit to license and most likely my auto insurance for 7 years. The officer that showed me the video advised me fight it because no sane LEO would have given me citation. It's the damn surveillance company in AZ that gets paid by the commission on every ticket and they prey on people who either do not have the time, confidence, or awareness of their rights to just automatically pay the fine, this kind officer told me.

    I showed up to traffic court, and as every milled about before the bailiff opened the courtroom doors, there was a lot of conversation about what each other was busted for. And EVERY single person I talked to got exactly the same citation as I, right turn on red.

    It later turned out that the cameras mad absolutely no difference to accident statistics at this intersection, the city actually lost money due the cost of court proceedings, and the only party that came out ahead was that out of state camera surveillance company. They were sent packing and the courthouse was closed because all the cases stemmed from the cameras from just this one intersection, and now everything goes through county resulting savings for the city and the abuses citizens,
    You Lunatic! You're lucky you weren't thrown in the hoosegow and put on bread and water for a month!

    Actually, right turn on a red in safety, after stopping for the light is legal up here.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Salinator View Post

    We had a situation near here in CA that is very similar to what Pruitt described.

    A particular intersection was supposedly dangerous, and cameras were installed to supposedly deter red light runners. This is an intersection that rarely has a pedestrian crossing, it is just a major vehicle crossroad. I actually got caught making a right turn of red from a dedicated right turn lane, why there is even a no right turn on red is against all reasoning as all intersection crossing and left turn lights are regulated, and there are so many lanes that for a left turn to come into contact with a right turn it would involved both drivers incapable of understanding the turning lanes.

    By law, I was allowed to see the video from all the cameras. There I was at a complete stop first up to the crosswalk waiting for the light, It was one of those most moments where the traffic computer had stop ALL traffic and everyone was basically staring each other for 30 seconds. I had anticipated my right turn green arrow and crept up and nudged into the pedestrian crosswalk marker a freaking second before my green as shown by the rolling digital clock. I had to ask them to freeze it and it was LESS THAN ONE second, and they wanted a minimum of $595 fine plus the hit to license and most likely my auto insurance for 7 years. The officer that showed me the video advised me fight it because no sane LEO would have given me citation. It's the damn surveillance company in AZ that gets paid by the commission on every ticket and they prey on people who either do not have the time, confidence, or awareness of their rights to just automatically pay the fine, this kind officer told me.

    I showed up to traffic court, and as every milled about before the bailiff opened the courtroom doors, there was a lot of conversation about what each other was busted for. And EVERY single person I talked to got exactly the same citation as I, right turn on red.

    It later turned out that the cameras mad absolutely no difference to accident statistics at this intersection, the city actually lost money due the cost of court proceedings, and the only party that came out ahead was that out of state camera surveillance company. They were sent packing and the courthouse was closed because all the cases stemmed from the cameras from just this one intersection, and now everything goes through county resulting savings for the city and the abuses citizens,
    IOW, we should ask the Germans to install the system they use.

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Auto-photos have been working extremely well in Europe for decades. No reason why they can;t work well here except for corruption and politics.
    We had a situation near here in CA that is very similar to what Pruitt described.

    A particular intersection was supposedly dangerous, and cameras were installed to supposedly deter red light runners. This is an intersection that rarely has a pedestrian crossing, it is just a major vehicle crossroad. I actually got caught making a right turn of red from a dedicated right turn lane, why there is even a no right turn on red is against all reasoning as all intersection crossing and left turn lights are regulated, and there are so many lanes that for a left turn to come into contact with a right turn it would involved both drivers incapable of understanding the turning lanes.

    By law, I was allowed to see the video from all the cameras. There I was at a complete stop first up to the crosswalk waiting for the light, It was one of those most moments where the traffic computer had stop ALL traffic and everyone was basically staring each other for 30 seconds. I had anticipated my right turn green arrow and crept up and nudged into the pedestrian crosswalk marker a freaking second before my green as shown by the rolling digital clock. I had to ask them to freeze it and it was LESS THAN ONE second, and they wanted a minimum of $595 fine plus the hit to license and most likely my auto insurance for 7 years. The officer that showed me the video advised me fight it because no sane LEO would have given me citation. It's the damn surveillance company in AZ that gets paid by the commission on every ticket and they prey on people who either do not have the time, confidence, or awareness of their rights to just automatically pay the fine, this kind officer told me.

    I showed up to traffic court, and as every milled about before the bailiff opened the courtroom doors, there was a lot of conversation about what each other was busted for. And EVERY single person I talked to got exactly the same citation as I, right turn on red.

    It later turned out that the cameras mad absolutely no difference to accident statistics at this intersection, the city actually lost money due the cost of court proceedings, and the only party that came out ahead was that out of state camera surveillance company. They were sent packing and the courthouse was closed because all the cases stemmed from the cameras from just this one intersection, and now everything goes through county resulting savings for the city and the abuses citizens,

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Why would the robot be painted white?
    That is actually a very often asked question. I did so work for a company that built robots, asked that very question and was given a pre-printed paper answer. Engineers prefer naked robots in the lab, but in the real world, they need to covered to protect the parts from dust, liquids, whatever, and they don't like clear because one can see and figure out the vitals.

    So clear is out unless it is or demonstration. Plastic and paint comes cheapest in white, and white make a robot look clean, modern, and good. It is also practical because it is the best color to spot dirt, oil, etc.

    I know a couple of SJW's here are not going to like this answer.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
    Years ago the City of Sulphur allowed a company to set up an automatic speed trap at certain locations. The locations targeted were school zones. Violations were processed by taking a picture of the offender's license and they were sent a summons to traffic court. The problem was only the locals were held accountable. The out of towners could not have the Sulphur PD drop by and take them to court for ignoring the summons in the mail. The locals were not able to get the tickets "fixed" as the company was paid a percentage of the fine levied. Many of the locals were ticketed in the last five or ten minutes the zone was active. Finally enough people complained and the radars were sent packing!

    Think what problems a Robot would have!

    Pruitt
    Auto-photos have been working extremely well in Europe for decades. No reason why they can;t work well here except for corruption and politics.

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  • Pruitt
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    Years ago the City of Sulphur allowed a company to set up an automatic speed trap at certain locations. The locations targeted were school zones. Violations were processed by taking a picture of the offender's license and they were sent a summons to traffic court. The problem was only the locals were held accountable. The out of towners could not have the Sulphur PD drop by and take them to court for ignoring the summons in the mail. The locals were not able to get the tickets "fixed" as the company was paid a percentage of the fine levied. Many of the locals were ticketed in the last five or ten minutes the zone was active. Finally enough people complained and the radars were sent packing!

    Think what problems a Robot would have!

    Pruitt

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Salinator View Post

    Robo shoots Black driverless Uber and another riot starts.
    Why would the robot be painted white?

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post

    Naw, the spanish-speaking ones, illegal aliens or not, are doing the "cooking" in the back. The naive and yet-to-be-fully-educated teens are working the cashiers spots. It's usually those teens that mess something up. But, hey, it's McDonald's. I don't go there very often and I never go their for their service or gourmet food.
    Not in this part of Colorado, and especially in Pueblo.

    Personally, I quit eating McDonald's a couple of years ago. The food is tasteless.

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Going to be really funny when the robo-cop pulls over the driverless Uber.
    Robo shoots Black driverless Uber and another riot starts.

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  • Hida Akechi
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    ...than the illiterate spanish speaking illegal behind the counter?
    Naw, the spanish-speaking ones, illegal aliens or not, are doing the "cooking" in the back. The naive and yet-to-be-fully-educated teens are working the cashiers spots. It's usually those teens that mess something up. But, hey, it's McDonald's. I don't go there very often and I never go their for their service or gourmet food.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post

    We have both kiosk and live humans.
    We're still human powered out here in the West.

    Guess McD's doesn't care about boosting the economy by providing summer jobs for high schoolers any more, but we still do.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
    I hope they can still shoot anyone that acts like an *******.
    Probably just photograph the license plate as a dying act and leave it up to a human to risk the arrest. Let's ace it people are unlikely to accept armed robots patrolling the street and highways, and if you think the Red Neck National Sport is drinking beer and shooting up stop signs...

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post

    McDonald's around here still have humans working the jobs. No automation, yet, thankfully. Though, sometimes a robot might do a better job....
    ...than the illiterate spanish speaking illegal behind the counter?

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  • Pirateship1982
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    Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post

    McDonald's around here still have humans working the jobs. No automation, yet, thankfully. Though, sometimes a robot might do a better job....
    We have both kiosk and live humans.

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