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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    In the past that was correct; however, the reservations are now little more than welfare havens for those who choose to live there.
    The ones near urban areas are cash cows for the tribes now.

    In the Phoenix metro area, there are two adjacent to it, the Gila River and Apache Santa Cruz. The Tonoho O'tham tribe even pulled a fast one to get in on the action. They bought land in Glendale, finagled to get it declared tribal (eg., reservation) land and slapped a casino on it.
    The Gila and Apaches have both built multiple casinos, entertainment venues, put up incredible numbers of billboards along highways that run through or adjacent to their reservation. They are scamming like there's no tomorrow.
    Any attempts to build next to their reservations on the other hand (read attempt to introduce competition) gets howls of protests about "sacred land" or other nonsense from the tribes.
    The tribal members get paid a serious cut of money from the casinos etc., operation. But, instead of it improving lives it has made most of their members more serious alcoholics, drug addicts, and welfare kings and queens. They get lazy and do nothing.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    No, they didnít choose to be placed on reservations, that was forced on them.
    In the past that was correct; however, the reservations are now little more than welfare havens for those who choose to live there.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
    Guys the Irish were mostly poor Dirt Farmers in Ireland. When they came to America, the Irish tended to settle in the ports of entry. Looking at the ACW, just about every Confederate state had a Regiment of mostly Irish. General Dick Taylor had one in his Louisiana Brigade. The Louisiana Tigers were formed from New Orleans stevedores (mostly Irish). At the battle of Sabine Pass in Texas, the commander and his 50 or so artillerymen were all Irish from the docks of Galveston.

    A lot of my Scot Irish ancestors went inland to find cheap farmland.

    Pruitt
    Pruitt, what does this have to do with the op?

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  • Pruitt
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    Guys the Irish were mostly poor Dirt Farmers in Ireland. When they came to America, the Irish tended to settle in the ports of entry. Looking at the ACW, just about every Confederate state had a Regiment of mostly Irish. General Dick Taylor had one in his Louisiana Brigade. The Louisiana Tigers were formed from New Orleans stevedores (mostly Irish). At the battle of Sabine Pass in Texas, the commander and his 50 or so artillerymen were all Irish from the docks of Galveston.

    A lot of my Scot Irish ancestors went inland to find cheap farmland.

    Pruitt

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Point taken. The Mohawks didn't. Or Ira Hayes, a Pima IIRC.

    However, the reservation Indians set themselves apart.
    No, they didnít choose to be placed on reservations, that was forced on them.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Youíre assuming all Native Americans stayed on reservations. Look up Eli Parker, imagine this man not being allowed to vote,

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ely_S._Parker
    Point taken. The Mohawks didn't. Or Ira Hayes, a Pima IIRC.

    However, the reservation Indians set themselves apart.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    My understanding is they consider themselves apart from the American nation, reservations being sovereign territory; therefore, as separate political entities they would not be involved in the voting process.
    Youíre assuming all Native Americans stayed on reservations. Look up Eli Parker, imagine this man not being allowed to vote,

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ely_S._Parker

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    My understanding is they consider themselves apart from the American nation, reservations being sovereign territory; therefore, as separate political entities they would not be involved in the voting process.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    And who, in your opinion, might that be? Convicts?
    Native Americans,

    https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/s...-voting-rights

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    IF John H knew some history he would know that Irish units fought for the Mexicans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_...%27s_Battalion
    Some did. A lot more fought for the Confederacy. Most people here don't know enough history to know that many of the South's farmers and sharecroppers were Irish immigrants.

    OTH, many Irish fought for the North.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    I wonder if we'll discuss the last ethnic group in the USA to get the right to vote.
    And who, in your opinion, might that be? Convicts?

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    I wonder if we'll discuss the last ethnic group in the USA to get the right to vote.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
    Gee I wonder what race was being discussed after slavery was referenced. At least have the fortitude to stand behind your BS and hatred.
    Perhaps if you actually addressed the points in my posts we could have meaningful discussions.
    Exactly what bs are you referring to?
    Where I pointed out that there is nothing in the Constitution that guarantees group rights?

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Gay, Jewish and handicapped?
    IF John H knew some history he would know that Irish units fought for the Mexicans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_...%27s_Battalion

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    So he is a Democrat after all...
    YES! Stormy

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