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  • There must be a reckoning...

    ...or it will happen again
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...cid=spartanntp
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    "Any story sounds true until someone tells the other side and sets the record straight." -Proverbs 18:17

  • #2
    McConnell blocks resolution calling for release of Mueller report for second time


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

    WHY
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      I believe there will be one.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
        McConnell blocks resolution calling for release of Mueller report for second time


        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

        WHY
        You know why. This whole affair was dirty from the beginning.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BorderRuffian View Post
          From the article -


          Delegitimizing Democratic Mandates


          What followed was equally unprecedented. It is the irony of our times that the ones responsible for so much division in our society are the ones who tried to delegitimize democratic mandates in both the United Kingdom and the United States because they did not like the outcome. Forget about charlatans like Molly McKew, Malcolm Nance, and Sarah Kendzior hogging television limelight, or the steady surreal set of Twitter blue checkmarks who ritualistically reply to every Trump tweet. Reputed historians like Tim Snyder wrote books peddling a narrative that had no empirical evidence and was not grounded in reality. The overwhelming majority of Western media was frothing at the mouth for two years in what could be charitably described as a systemic and intentional attempt to delegitimize an election.

          The bulk of academia, and public intellectuals—the ones who are supposed to be the rational bulwark opposing mob hysteria—were the ones stoking the flames. Charlatan resistance grifters were making money out of legitimately fearful Americans, and all but a handful of journalists were not even questioning the daily unverified leaks pouring out of the bureaucracy but acting as their mouthpiece, all while calling out the skeptical few.

          The NeverTrumpers eschewed all traditional conservative principles of restraint and prudence, and instead opted for a scorched-earth warfare. Whatever they may be, the Max Boots, Jennifer Rubins, and Bill Kristols are not ignorant. The only other logical explanations for their conduct can be mischief or malice.

          A charitable reading of the Robert Mueller report indicates that the main contention of campaign collusion was unfounded. The charges for the last two years were not if someone from Trump campaign forgot to disclose his or her financial assets, or some procedural skulduggery that was unreported. It was a charge of active, clandestine, collusion with a hostile power—a veritable act of treason.

          That is now over. Of course, already the narrative is shifting to another uncharted theory of obstruction. It is a neat cynical trick. Every cry of defense to a false accusation could be counted and showcased as evidence of obstruction. We saw that type of goalpost-moving during the confirmation hearing of Justice Brett Kavanaugh -- when charges of sexual assualt were unfounded, the argument shifted to Kavanaugh’s temperament.

          There are also arguments about, shockingly, whether Bill Barr is prevaricating in his summary, as Mueller and his people wait quietly without protest, or worse, whether Mueller himself was compromised.

          The People Who Did This Need to Face Consequences
          And the emphasis is mine, where I am in special agreement with what is printed. However, the large bolded headings are from the article.

          So, lets talk about what is in the article and the points made by it, instead of falling for silly diversions from the enemy for the umpteenth time.

          "Why is the Rum gone?"

          -Captain Jack

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
            McConnell blocks resolution calling for release of Mueller report for second time


            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

            WHY
            Because after the Star report on Clinton, the rules were changed:

            https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timei...-release-starr
            "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              You know why. This whole affair was dirty from the beginning.
              In your fantasy World perhaps. Why is it being blocked by the Senate majority leader? Even you should be asking that question. If it was dirty how did it get something like 16 convictions.
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                Well... everybody knows that the rumor mongering will go on and on, ad infinitum until...what? What will be logical end to all this sniping, innuendo, obstruction of truth, fiction of the press, prevarication of elected officials and downright false information?
                ARRRR! International Talk Like A Pirate Day - September 19th
                IN MARE IN COELO

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                  In your fantasy World perhaps. Why is it being blocked by the Senate majority leader? Even you should be asking that question. If it was dirty how did it get something like 16 convictions.
                  Because Mueller went far and wide beyond the original scope of his mission to find stuff that had nothing to do with Russian collusion on people being investigated. Not one of the subpoenas issued or crimes charged had to do with collusion.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jose50 View Post
                    ...everybody knows that the rumor mongering will go on and on, ad infinitum until...what?...
                    Until we can read it for ourselves instead of being told what is, or is not, in it.

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                    • #11
                      Lock him up !

                      A charitable reading of the Robert Mueller report indicates that the main contention of campaign collusion was unfounded.
                      You see, you do not need to read the Robert Mueller report.

                      It has been read for you, in a charitable fashion no less, and you've been told how to think about it.

                      What else do you need ?

                      Typically a fellow human’s intelligence is not questioned out of common courtesy. Sometimes, however, there is a need.
                      Indeed.

                      Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                      So, lets talk about what is in the article and the points made by it, instead of falling for silly diversions from the enemy for the umpteenth time.
                      No - let's examine the available evidence, being the actual report as written by Meuller, then draw logical conclusions.

                      This is a history board after all
                      Last edited by Snowygerry; 28 Mar 19, 08:45.
                      Major Atticus Finch - ACW Rainbow Game.

                      Bolgios - Mercenary Game.

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                      • #12
                        This Sumantra Maitra is really something, look at this,

                        It is time to ponder the same philosophical question that vexed ancient warriors on North Indian plains 5,000 years ago: How do we restore balance in society and bring about the fear of justice? The answer was that there needs to be a reckoning. A punitive deterrence needs to be established to restore sanity and order.
                        Really ?

                        https://quillette.com/author/sumantra-maitra/

                        The Germans have a word for everything, as they say on this side of the English Channel.
                        Yes they do, their word for this is "quatsch" - I believe
                        Last edited by Snowygerry; 28 Mar 19, 09:17.
                        Major Atticus Finch - ACW Rainbow Game.

                        Bolgios - Mercenary Game.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                          Because Mueller went far and wide beyond the original scope of his mission to find stuff that had nothing to do with Russian collusion on people being investigated. Not one of the subpoenas issued or crimes charged had to do with collusion.
                          WRONG....AGAIN Read his mandate that was given to him by a Republican.
                          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                            WRONG....AGAIN Read his mandate that was given to him by a Republican.
                            Maybe you should...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by III Corps View Post

                              Until we can read it for ourselves instead of being told what is, or is not, in it.
                              OK...but how can one determine whether or not what one reads is not biased, skewed, censored, opined, the whole truth or just plain WRONG?
                              ARRRR! International Talk Like A Pirate Day - September 19th
                              IN MARE IN COELO

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