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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    But what about Mueller and Manafort?

    Where are the confident pronouncements after the facts come home to roost?
    What are you looking for? Manafort has been successfully prosecuted, is now a convicted felon, and is going to prison. And we'll (hopefully) find out what Mueller found during the investigation when it is over and the findings submitted.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    But what about Mueller and Manafort?

    Where are the confident pronouncements after the facts come home to roost?

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  • ljadw
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    That's your opinion and one which I do not agree with.
    Of course not : Wapo is a Deep State newspaper and supports AQ .

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    That's your opinion and one which I do not agree with.
    That's obvious from your spamming the board with both sources while only making at most an irrelevant and droll tag line to go with the post. What follows is a demolition of the article by others which you make little attempt to defend.
    Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 15 Mar 19, 13:08.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    I rarely source the WaPo and certainly don't for opinion pieces like the one used in this thread. I have also repeatedly said the WaPo and CNN are completely noncredible sources when it comes to anything political or Trump.
    That's your opinion and one which I do not agree with.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

    How convenient. Doesn't change the facts though. You'll source the WaPo when it fits your agenda, deny the source because you don't like what you hear...
    I rarely source the WaPo and certainly don't for opinion pieces like the one used in this thread. I have also repeatedly said the WaPo and CNN are completely noncredible sources when it comes to anything political or Trump.

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  • TacCovert4
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    Twelve Republican Senators voted for the rule of law today, and one changed his mind and wimped out:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    I certainly won't vote for Senator Tillis next time around...
    Didn't vote for him in the primary the first time. Wouldn't have voted for him in the general except the other option was worse and there wasn't a third option on the ballot unless I wanted to write in my dog.

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  • inevtiab1e
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    More like a worthless one given it's the WaPo...
    How convenient. Doesn't change the facts though. You'll source the WaPo when it fits your agenda, deny the source because you don't like what you hear...

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  • Trung Si
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    It was in support of the US Constitution which Trump both ignores and violates.
    Hell, to some,(and that includes Republicans), Trump ignores and violates the US Constitution just by getting dressed in the Morning.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    More like a worthless one given it's the WaPo...
    More on the Senate GOP revolt. It's based on the Constitution, not the border wall.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    More like a worthless one given it's the WaPo...

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  • Massena
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    An interesting viewpoint:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opini...cid=spartandhp

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    No it wasn't. Here's a list of the GOP senators that voted against it and their reasons:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

    Here's the executive brief version.

    Lamar Alexander: The only one that brought up a constitutional issue
    Roy Blunt: Concerned about the precedent it could set
    Susan Collins: Essentially a Democrat (aka RINO). Thought social issues were more important.
    Mike Lee: Thought Congress gave the president too much power in the National Emergency act.
    Mike Moran: Like Lee thinks Congress gave too much power to the President
    Lisa Murkowski: Like Collins is essentially a Democrat. She just doesn't like what Trump is doing.
    Rand Paul: Feels that Congress should appropriate the funds instead.
    Rob Portman: Concerned about the precedent it could set.
    Mitt Romney: Thought President used the National Emergency act to overstep his authority by changing appropriated money use
    Marco Rubio: Concerned about the precedent it could set, stated a Democrat president might use this method to push through the "New Green Deal," for example.
    Patrick Toomey: Thinks Congress gave president too much power
    Roger Wicker: Concerned about the precedent it sets.
    And the majority of those are Constitutional issues. The main issue being the separation of powers.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    It was in support of the US Constitution which Trump both ignores and violates.
    No it wasn't. Here's a list of the GOP senators that voted against it and their reasons:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp

    Here's the executive brief version.

    Lamar Alexander: The only one that brought up a constitutional issue
    Roy Blunt: Concerned about the precedent it could set
    Susan Collins: Essentially a Democrat (aka RINO). Thought social issues were more important.
    Mike Lee: Thought Congress gave the president too much power in the National Emergency act.
    Mike Moran: Like Lee thinks Congress gave too much power to the President
    Lisa Murkowski: Like Collins is essentially a Democrat. She just doesn't like what Trump is doing.
    Rand Paul: Feels that Congress should appropriate the funds instead.
    Rob Portman: Concerned about the precedent it could set.
    Mitt Romney: Thought President used the National Emergency act to overstep his authority by changing appropriated money use
    Marco Rubio: Concerned about the precedent it could set, stated a Democrat president might use this method to push through the "New Green Deal," for example.
    Patrick Toomey: Thinks Congress gave president too much power
    Roger Wicker: Concerned about the precedent it sets.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    You might want to read their reasoning for their vote. All but a couple voted like they did for reasons other than opposition to the wall.
    It was in support of the US Constitution which Trump both ignores and violates.

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