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  • #61
    Originally posted by Nichols View Post

    He ran for president once and won.

    Clinton took in $1 billion, Trump took in $600 million for the campaign.

    Trump is rich.

    …..and "he's an idiot".....
    Funny how so many people with absolutely unsuccessful lives consider a man who has made billions and literally carved himself a place in history 'an idiot'.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

      Only because you lot voted for him
      Somehow he beat a candidate who has been called the smartest woman in the world for better than 20 years.
      If Trump is an idiot, I have to wonder what that makes the person he beat.
      Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

      Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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      • #63
        History is full of idiots - plenty of them quite rich, popular and successful.

        Take Charles VI Of France, for instance, also known as Charles le Bien Aimé, the Well-Beloved.

        http://madmonarchs.guusbeltman.nl/ma...arles6_bio.htm

        Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
        Somehow he beat a candidate who has been called the smartest woman in the world for better than 20 years.
        If Trump is an idiot, I have to wonder what that makes the person he beat.
        No no - you want my opinion on Clinton, start a thread on Clinton, see you there
        Last edited by Snowygerry; 19 Mar 19, 10:14.
        High Admiral Snowy, Commander In Chief of the Naval Forces of The Phoenix Confederation.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
          History is full of idiots - plenty of them quite rich, popular and successful.

          Take Charles VI Of France, for instance, also known as Charles le Bien Aimé, the Well-Beloved.

          http://madmonarchs.guusbeltman.nl/ma...arles6_bio.htm



          No no - you want my opinion on Clinton, start a thread on Clinton, see you there


          Thankfully, Hillary has been cast upon the dustbin of history.
          No more need be said.

          Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

          Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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          • #65
            But so many still bring her name up. Including MM and Trump. As you said she is from yesterday, thank god.
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
              I still haven't seen why a successful self-made billionaire is less qualified than a foreign-born community organizer from a bankrupt city, or a former governor with a very checkered past, or an ex-teacher turned political hack.
              'Cause he's not successful and he's not self-made. You chumps fell for an image peddled by that Apprentice crap. Donald Trump's record clearly shows him to possess questionable business acumen, and it's public knowledge that it was his father Fred who set The Donald up in real estate development. The Donald is no more self-made than a Kennedy, and he's no more successful than any number of businessmen who've done little better than break even over the last three decades -- and for selling shares in his failing Atlantic City operations, he should go down with Ken Lay as an outright con man.
              I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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              • #67
                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                • #68
                  I need to borrow your hammer, slick-meister, as YOU JUST NAILED IT SQUARE....
                  The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by marktwain View Post
                    I need to borrow your hammer, slick-meister, as YOU JUST NAILED IT SQUARE....
                    There are a lot of scammers out there that deliberately prey on senior citizens, either 'cause they think that the geezers are senile and gullible, or that once they've learned that they've been scammed old people will be reluctant to issue a complaint: they'll be embarrassed that they proved vulnerable to a con. Likewise, Southerners always deny that slavery was the real cause of the US Civil War: admitting that slavery was the cause of war would constitute a tacit admission that millions of Johnny Reb's who didn't own slaves were suckered into sweating and fighting and bleeding for the top echelon of Southern society's -- the big planters' -- social, political, and economic interests. With that in mind, how many people are going to admit that they voted for a charlatan based on this



                    or this



                    They voted for a carnival barker. Do you really expect them to admit that?
                    I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
                      History is full of idiots - plenty of them quite rich, popular and successful.

                      Take Charles VI Of France, for instance, also known as Charles le Bien Aimé, the Well-Beloved.

                      http://madmonarchs.guusbeltman.nl/ma...arles6_bio.htm



                      No no - you want my opinion on Clinton, start a thread on Clinton, see you there
                      Your example is part of that "royalty" elite that held ruling positions for centuries(millennia), along with the means and authority to concentrate the wealth into their hands. Not quite the same as campaigning and getting elected - politics de jour, USA.
                      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                        'Cause he's not successful and he's not self-made. You chumps fell for an image peddled by that Apprentice crap. Donald Trump's record clearly shows him to possess questionable business acumen, and it's public knowledge that it was his father Fred who set The Donald up in real estate development. The Donald is no more self-made than a Kennedy, and he's no more successful than any number of businessmen who've done little better than break even over the last three decades -- and for selling shares in his failing Atlantic City operations, he should go down with Ken Lay as an outright con man.
                        Remember, in Free Enterprise and most business operations (Capitalism), there are no guarantees of success, or profitability. IIRC, here in USA about 4 out of 5 small business starts fail within three years. Even long-term business operations can come and go. Over half the employers I've had in the past 50 years are no-longer in business, on longer existing.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post



                          Thankfully, Hillary has been cast upon the dustbin of history.
                          No more need be said.
                          A reminder, this is a history forum and past events, which shape the present, do have their key players ~ personalities. Impacts and effects often linger long after they leave the stage, or step back, etc. Just because they aren't "current" doesn't mean they were, or are without consequence.
                          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                            Remember, in Free Enterprise and most business operations (Capitalism), there are no guarantees of success, or profitability. IIRC, here in USA about 4 out of 5 small business starts fail within three years. Even long-term business operations can come and go. Over half the employers I've had in the past 50 years are no-longer in business, on longer existing.
                            And all of that is true -- but you're overlooking the fact that Donald Trump has, for better than three decades, characterized himself as an exceptional businessman. Deliberately over-saturating the Atlantic City casino market shouldn't be the work of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did exactly that. Buying an 80 year old hotel without contingencies should not be the act of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did that, with the Plaza Hotel. The fact is, Trump's record as a businessman is wholly at variance with his recollection.

                            For eight years we suffered a President who veritably lied very time he drew breath: Bill Clinton. The arrogant bastard got himself impeached 'cause he perjured himself in front of a grand jury. I'm sure that you found Clinton's shenanigans every bit as unacceptable as I did. "He's not a Clinton" does not constitute blanket immunity for every dram of hot manure that dribbles from Trump's mouth. If it was unacceptable for Clinton, then the same failing is equally unacceptable for Donald Trump.
                            I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

                              And all of that is true -- but you're overlooking the fact that Donald Trump has, for better than three decades, characterized himself as an exceptional businessman. Deliberately over-saturating the Atlantic City casino market shouldn't be the work of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did exactly that. Buying an 80 year old hotel without contingencies should not be the act of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did that, with the Plaza Hotel. The fact is, Trump's record as a businessman is wholly at variance with his recollection.

                              For eight years we suffered a President who veritably lied very time he drew breath: Bill Clinton. The arrogant bastard got himself impeached 'cause he perjured himself in front of a grand jury. I'm sure that you found Clinton's shenanigans every bit as unacceptable as I did. "He's not a Clinton" does not constitute blanket immunity for every dram of hot manure that dribbles from Trump's mouth. If it was unacceptable for Clinton, then the same failing is equally unacceptable for Donald Trump.
                              I'm not saying it does, but the sources are at extreme odds to each other.

                              Both the "Clinton's" majored in political science with a goal and actuality of living off the taxpayers which they managed to do most of their livelihood after college.

                              Yes Trump got a big hand-up from daddy, which many born into wealth do, and he has inflated his merit and resume', but still, he comes from the make wealth, not take wealth side of our economy and that would have placed him above and beyond any from the opposite side in my book.

                              I've said often he was far from my preferred choice, but once Shillary uttered her "deplorables" comment, she polarized me and enough other Citizens to consign her to the dustbin forever. Unfortunately Trump was the remaining viable choice. However, detestable as his style and personality may be, results so far into his administration are looking far better than we could have expected from the BHO replacement/clone.

                              The business of America is business and so far that over-rides being slick and having good presentation. Results over style any day.
                              Last edited by G David Bock; 20 Mar 19, 12:23. Reason: spelling
                              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post

                                Funny how so many people with absolutely unsuccessful lives consider a man who has made billions and literally carved himself a place in history 'an idiot'.
                                The reason is that they were unsuccessful,it is only jealousy from intellectuals who have never worked, who never created wealth .

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