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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by marktwain View Post

    TAg- hopefully you'll look north and realize what THAT means
    and more https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...te&FORM=HDRSC2
    My goodness, aren't you the little cynic.

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Doesn't mean it's the right thing to be doing. I totally disagree with the 17th Amendment (direct election of senators) for example.
    TAg- hopefully you'll look north and realize what THAT means
    and more https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...te&FORM=HDRSC2

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    They are not selected by the EC


    That is consistent with my point.
    The sole national office is selected in a manner (The EC) that recognizes and preserves State sovereignty.
    The president is elected by the EC for a reason, not by accident.
    Complaining that the president isnít selected the same way all other offices are selected ignores the fact that the presidentís office is very different from all other offices.
    You are comparing apples to oranges and pretending there is no difference.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Yes. They (senators) should be appointed. The original idea the Founders had was division of power. The People were represented by the House and directly elected.
    Senators were appointed by their state government and represented the state they were from.
    The President was elected indirectly so that smaller states had some say in the election, hence the electoral college.

    Idiots and numbskulls are ruining that by trying to turn all federal elections into popular votes. That makes the Senate nothing more than a duplicate of the House. The Presidency becomes beholden only to the most populous states and the rest get kicked to the curb.

    With a popular vote system you end up with the US being held hostage to what the morons in New York and California "think" for all intents. That is asininely stupid and anyone with a lick of common sense would be against it.
    How are the # of members of the EC selected?

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

    And none of those other offices are "national".
    All elections that are for the sole "National" office are conducted in a manner that recognizes and preserves State sovereignty.
    It is how our system is intended to work.
    They are not selected by the EC

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    Why? Do you want them to be appointed?
    Yes. They (senators) should be appointed. The original idea the Founders had was division of power. The People were represented by the House and directly elected.
    Senators were appointed by their state government and represented the state they were from.
    The President was elected indirectly so that smaller states had some say in the election, hence the electoral college.

    Idiots and numbskulls are ruining that by trying to turn all federal elections into popular votes. That makes the Senate nothing more than a duplicate of the House. The Presidency becomes beholden only to the most populous states and the rest get kicked to the curb.

    With a popular vote system you end up with the US being held hostage to what the morons in New York and California "think" for all intents. That is asininely stupid and anyone with a lick of common sense would be against it.

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  • marktwain
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Private sector occupations are about creating wealth. Whether employee on factory floor or owner of a business. That's basic economics.

    Almost all government jobs exist as part of the wealth redistribution(tax funding) part of the economy, again, basic economics.

    Some parasites are essential, but they are still parasites.
    I do believe that the standing rule on the board is not to criticize anyone's military service Even if you have proof, but Esp.? If you don't have ANY proof...
    It's also wise to admit if one has been misspoken.....

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    Every other elected office in the land is decided by popular.

    Oh those yea. Who's on first?
    And none of those other offices are "national".
    All elections that are for the sole "National" office are conducted in a manner that recognizes and preserves State sovereignty.
    It is how our system is intended to work.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Neither are direct wealth creation occupations.
    Would seem you don't understand what is said and presented in the second paragraph. Leads one to wonder how irrelevant and ignorant you were as a teacher.
    You have no right to either judge or criticize what I chose to do as professions. You have clearly demonstrated that you have no idea of long military service or how and why to teach.

    For those who have defended it, freedom has a taste that the defended will never know or understand.

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  • Massena
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    Why? Do you want them to be appointed?

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    Every other elected office in the land is decided by popular.

    Oh those yea. Who's on first?
    Doesn't mean it's the right thing to be doing. I totally disagree with the 17th Amendment (direct election of senators) for example.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Good thing that the mob doesn't rule America...
    Every other elected office in the land is decided by popular.

    Oh those yea. Who's on first?

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

    And yet, Americans determined that they needed Trump.
    No...Americans refused to have Shrillary.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Trump appeals to the 'mob.' He reminds me of Comodus in Gladiator.

    He throws them rhetorical 'red meat' at his 'rallies.'
    A popular vote / direct democracy for every office in the nation is the epitome of mob rule.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Good thing that the mob doesn't rule America...
    Trump appeals to the 'mob.' He reminds me of Comodus in Gladiator.

    He throws them rhetorical 'red meat' at his 'rallies.'

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