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  • ljadw
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    Dear God - did you fall on your keyboard again did you
    Proof that anything of post 77 was wrong .What Mudd said is a fact .
    I have been very moderate in post 77 : reality is worse, much worse than what I said .
    Never heard of censoreship in Germany, in Britain, in the USA , to hide Muslim crimes ?

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  • Snowygerry
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    Dear God - did you fall on your keyboard again did you

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  • ljadw
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    The ruling new class (to paraphrase Djilas ) that is governing US and Western Europe is panicking : people are revolting against this parasitycal nomenclatura that has totally failed, Because it has failed . The election of Trump was not the the forerunner ;the forerunner was the advent of Ross Perot,which eliminated old Bush,who wanted to take away more money, thus more freedom from the people .As one could expect, Deep State reacted immediately with Soros'Open Societies in 1993 .
    Deep State failed again on 9/11 and its reaction was to get more money from the people, which did not eliminate Muslim terrorism and criminality .
    Than came another henchman ( here : a henchwoman ) of the Nomenklatura,Hillary, who said openly that DS had failed to protect society,but would prevent people from defending themselves by taking away people's only remaining possibility to defend themselves against crime : the 2nd Amendment . Without the 2nd Amendment, the American people are only a helpless prey for DS .
    The American people have elected Trump to protect them;Trump will do what is possible, but, have no illusions : a henchman of Mueller, high-ranked agent of the police of DS ,said openly at CNN: the mission of the potus is to protect DS,the Nomenklatura, if he does not do it,we will kill him .
    Phil Mudd : government is going to kill Trump,because he is not supporting them .
    There is a war on life and death going on .The people against the rulers .

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  • Snowygerry
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Your example is part of that "royalty" elite that held ruling positions for centuries(millennia), along with the means and authority to concentrate the wealth into their hands. Not quite the same as campaigning and getting elected - politics de jour, USA.
    Are you sure ? Have you taken a look at your last few presidents ?

    I'm sure there are several members here at ACG even that would make a better US president than Bush, Clinton, Bush II, Obama AND Trump

    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    A reminder, this is a history forum and past events, which shape the present, do have their key players ~ personalities. Impacts and effects often linger long after they leave the stage, or step back, etc. Just because they aren't "current" doesn't mean they were, or are without consequence.
    That's why I mentioned Homer Simpson.

    Chances that future historians 700 years from now will talk about any of those mentioned above are quite small, they will be forgotten..

    The Simpsons though will be for ever considered your cultural heritage, they'll study it like we study Homeros, and appreciate the numerous historical references, as well as wonder how the writers managed to predict the Trump presidency for example.
    Last edited by Snowygerry; 20 Mar 19, 03:29.

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  • ljadw
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post

    Funny how so many people with absolutely unsuccessful lives consider a man who has made billions and literally carved himself a place in history 'an idiot'.
    The reason is that they were unsuccessful,it is only jealousy from intellectuals who have never worked, who never created wealth .

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    And all of that is true -- but you're overlooking the fact that Donald Trump has, for better than three decades, characterized himself as an exceptional businessman. Deliberately over-saturating the Atlantic City casino market shouldn't be the work of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did exactly that. Buying an 80 year old hotel without contingencies should not be the act of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did that, with the Plaza Hotel. The fact is, Trump's record as a businessman is wholly at variance with his recollection.

    For eight years we suffered a President who veritably lied very time he drew breath: Bill Clinton. The arrogant bastard got himself impeached 'cause he perjured himself in front of a grand jury. I'm sure that you found Clinton's shenanigans every bit as unacceptable as I did. "He's not a Clinton" does not constitute blanket immunity for every dram of hot manure that dribbles from Trump's mouth. If it was unacceptable for Clinton, then the same failing is equally unacceptable for Donald Trump.
    I'm not saying it does, but the sources are at extreme odds to each other.

    Both the "Clinton's" majored in political science with a goal and actuality of living off the taxpayers which they managed to do most of their livelihood after college.

    Yes Trump got a big hand-up from daddy, which many born into wealth do, and he has inflated his merit and resume', but still, he comes from the make wealth, not take wealth side of our economy and that would have placed him above and beyond any from the opposite side in my book.

    I've said often he was far from my preferred choice, but once Shillary uttered her "deplorables" comment, she polarized me and enough other Citizens to consign her to the dustbin forever. Unfortunately Trump was the remaining viable choice. However, detestable as his style and personality may be, results so far into his administration are looking far better than we could have expected from the BHO replacement/clone.

    The business of America is business and so far that over-rides being slick and having good presentation. Results over style any day.
    Last edited by G David Bock; 20 Mar 19, 12:23. Reason: spelling

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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Remember, in Free Enterprise and most business operations (Capitalism), there are no guarantees of success, or profitability. IIRC, here in USA about 4 out of 5 small business starts fail within three years. Even long-term business operations can come and go. Over half the employers I've had in the past 50 years are no-longer in business, on longer existing.
    And all of that is true -- but you're overlooking the fact that Donald Trump has, for better than three decades, characterized himself as an exceptional businessman. Deliberately over-saturating the Atlantic City casino market shouldn't be the work of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did exactly that. Buying an 80 year old hotel without contingencies should not be the act of an exceptional businessman -- but Trump did that, with the Plaza Hotel. The fact is, Trump's record as a businessman is wholly at variance with his recollection.

    For eight years we suffered a President who veritably lied very time he drew breath: Bill Clinton. The arrogant bastard got himself impeached 'cause he perjured himself in front of a grand jury. I'm sure that you found Clinton's shenanigans every bit as unacceptable as I did. "He's not a Clinton" does not constitute blanket immunity for every dram of hot manure that dribbles from Trump's mouth. If it was unacceptable for Clinton, then the same failing is equally unacceptable for Donald Trump.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post



    Thankfully, Hillary has been cast upon the dustbin of history.
    No more need be said.
    A reminder, this is a history forum and past events, which shape the present, do have their key players ~ personalities. Impacts and effects often linger long after they leave the stage, or step back, etc. Just because they aren't "current" doesn't mean they were, or are without consequence.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    'Cause he's not successful and he's not self-made. You chumps fell for an image peddled by that Apprentice crap. Donald Trump's record clearly shows him to possess questionable business acumen, and it's public knowledge that it was his father Fred who set The Donald up in real estate development. The Donald is no more self-made than a Kennedy, and he's no more successful than any number of businessmen who've done little better than break even over the last three decades -- and for selling shares in his failing Atlantic City operations, he should go down with Ken Lay as an outright con man.
    Remember, in Free Enterprise and most business operations (Capitalism), there are no guarantees of success, or profitability. IIRC, here in USA about 4 out of 5 small business starts fail within three years. Even long-term business operations can come and go. Over half the employers I've had in the past 50 years are no-longer in business, on longer existing.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    History is full of idiots - plenty of them quite rich, popular and successful.

    Take Charles VI Of France, for instance, also known as Charles le Bien Aimé, the Well-Beloved.

    http://madmonarchs.guusbeltman.nl/ma...arles6_bio.htm



    No no - you want my opinion on Clinton, start a thread on Clinton, see you there
    Your example is part of that "royalty" elite that held ruling positions for centuries(millennia), along with the means and authority to concentrate the wealth into their hands. Not quite the same as campaigning and getting elected - politics de jour, USA.

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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by marktwain View Post
    I need to borrow your hammer, slick-meister, as YOU JUST NAILED IT SQUARE....
    There are a lot of scammers out there that deliberately prey on senior citizens, either 'cause they think that the geezers are senile and gullible, or that once they've learned that they've been scammed old people will be reluctant to issue a complaint: they'll be embarrassed that they proved vulnerable to a con. Likewise, Southerners always deny that slavery was the real cause of the US Civil War: admitting that slavery was the cause of war would constitute a tacit admission that millions of Johnny Reb's who didn't own slaves were suckered into sweating and fighting and bleeding for the top echelon of Southern society's -- the big planters' -- social, political, and economic interests. With that in mind, how many people are going to admit that they voted for a charlatan based on this



    or this



    They voted for a carnival barker. Do you really expect them to admit that?

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  • marktwain
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    I need to borrow your hammer, slick-meister, as YOU JUST NAILED IT SQUARE....

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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    I still haven't seen why a successful self-made billionaire is less qualified than a foreign-born community organizer from a bankrupt city, or a former governor with a very checkered past, or an ex-teacher turned political hack.
    'Cause he's not successful and he's not self-made. You chumps fell for an image peddled by that Apprentice crap. Donald Trump's record clearly shows him to possess questionable business acumen, and it's public knowledge that it was his father Fred who set The Donald up in real estate development. The Donald is no more self-made than a Kennedy, and he's no more successful than any number of businessmen who've done little better than break even over the last three decades -- and for selling shares in his failing Atlantic City operations, he should go down with Ken Lay as an outright con man.

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  • Half Pint John
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    But so many still bring her name up. Including MM and Trump. As you said she is from yesterday, thank god.

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