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  • Massena
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    Yes-there were only Christians in the Roman Empire as the religion hadn't broken into different permanent Christian sects yet. The first schism happened in the 11th century when the eastern church broke from Rome.

    There were problems in the Christian 'community' which was shy Constantine the Great called the council of Nicaea in the 4th century to settle the differences. And Constantine had to threaten to use force against the bishops if they could not come to a decision on Christian doctrine. Their 'decision' came swiftly after that announcement.

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  • Snowygerry
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    I suspect he confused Catholics with Christians - the Romans crucified for less

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by American87 View Post

    Exactly. I’m Catholic, should the Roman government pay me reparations for persecuting me thousands of years ago?
    No, because the Romans never persecuted Catholics because they did not exist at that time. They persecuted Jews from Judea and surrounding regions. Masada was about the Jews...No Catholics.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by American87 View Post

    Exactly. I’m Catholic, should the Roman government pay me reparations for persecuting me thousands of years ago?
    You were alive during the time of the Roman Empire? When did any Romans persecute you?

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  • American87
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    Originally posted by Tsar View Post
    Absolutely!

    Every single person that the U.S. government held as a slave should be compensated for that injustice. Should their descendants, NO.
    Exactly. I’m Catholic, should the Roman government pay me reparations for persecuting me thousands of years ago?

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  • Half Pint John
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    there are a lot of blacks in America that have no relationship to our slavery. People from Haiti and Ethiopia both come to mind. How would it be decided on who has he rights to claim? Proof please. Just being black well not cut it.

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  • Snowygerry
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    In fact - one could argue that the descendants at least, of the slaves taken to the US are in fact better off than the descendants their kin that remained in Africa.

    Maybe they should pay

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  • Surrey
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    No compensation for slavery as too long ago. There is however a case for compensation for segregation and denial of voting rights.

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  • Johan Banér
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post

    That requires a somewhat coherent "family" able to transfer wealth from one generation to the next.

    I suspect someone will be along soon to talk about unmarried mothers and absent fathers.
    I recall one of the German 1920's anthropologists observing that the rate of US black illegitimate children back then was in fact lower than that of his Catholic Bavarian countrymen...

    Of course it will be trotted out how in America everyone who isn't privileged only have themselves to blame. Wouldn't be the US otherwise...
    https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...-their-country

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  • Snowygerry
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    Average wealth for white families is seven times higher than average wealth for black families.
    That requires a somewhat coherent "family" able to transfer wealth from one generation to the next.

    I suspect someone will be along soon to talk about unmarried mothers and absent fathers.

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  • Johan Banér
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    Afaict the problem by NOW isn't really any direct long-term effects of slavery.

    THIS kind of thing seems to be. Fixing seems like something more acute to tackle:
    https://www.epi.org/blog/the-racial-...-build-wealth/

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  • Snowygerry
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    Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
    What is for sure is that being black in early United States of America was not the same as being black in the various liberal Catholic kingdoms and in the Roman empire of history.
    Or in Africa for that matter

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  • Stonewall_Jack
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    What all white men answer so far ?

    Figures

    I don’t think I am for Reperations To former slaves as it might be tough to trace the descendants. What is for sure is that being black in early United States of America was not the same as being black in the various liberal Catholic kingdoms and in the Roman empire of history. Skin color did not gain importance until the 17th or 18th century it seems. Certainly the Roman Empire was Arab, African and European in its ranks. The Middle Ages in Europe saw blacks depicted as honorable and dignified in various paintings

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  • Tsar
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    Absolutely!

    Every single person that the U.S. government held as a slave should be compensated for that injustice. Should their descendants, NO.

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  • Cambronnne
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    Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
    To whom ?
    Oprah?
    LeBron James?
    Obama? (Well he would have to pay too I think)

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