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  • Hida Akechi
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    "I don't have time to look through your posts and prove you wrong."

    That's one of the most asinine things I can read in a post.

    What that poster should have typed is:

    "I'm too much of a coward to pursue this, because I know I'm wrong but too stubborn to admit it. So I'll just keep lying about it until you give in or stop bringing it up. I'll consider that a win."

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    I just pointed it out because you have implied that only Whites can be racists or bigots.
    Where? I've always said the exact opposite actually.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    His ethnicity doesn't mean anything. Are you implying that only whites can be racist or bigots?
    I just pointed it out because you have implied that only Whites can be racists or bigots.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    I don't have time to look through your posts and prove you wrong. But I do know that you recently said there's truth to blacks being lazier and less intelligent than whites. So even if you like Muslims, you instead would just fall into the racist category. So there you go, you're disqualified. Next example?

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
    “No one has a right to destroy property because they don’t agree with someone else,” Dugas said. “Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine being the victim of pure hate because of my belief.”

    From your article. The hat was there because he's a Trump supporter.
    So? According to you that makes him a bigot and a racist and action against him for that is justified.

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  • Salinator
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    I don't have time to look through your posts and prove you wrong. But I do know that you recently said there's truth to blacks being lazier and less intelligent than whites. So even if you like Muslims, you instead would just fall into the racist category. So there you go, you're disqualified. Next example?
    https://www.economist.com/united-sta...ated-with-race

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Me.
    I don't have time to look through your posts and prove you wrong. But I do know that you recently said there's truth to blacks being lazier and less intelligent than whites. So even if you like Muslims, you instead would just fall into the racist category. So there you go, you're disqualified. Next example?

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  • TactiKill J.
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    “No one has a right to destroy property because they don’t agree with someone else,” Dugas said. “Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine being the victim of pure hate because of my belief.”

    From your article. The hat was there because he's a Trump supporter.

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    No, we haven't. In fact, the guy in the Phoenix incident Nick Dugas is Hispanic.
    His ethnicity doesn't mean anything. Are you implying that only whites can be racist or bigots?

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    If someone was wearing a swastika would it be inappropriate for me to assume that he's a neo nazi?
    Depends on the context in which it is worn. A native American wearing one could be using a traditional symbol from their culture. A person acting or reenacting military history in a German uniform would be another. Still another might be a collector of military memorabilia who has a collection of Nazi military items. The swastika alone doesn't make one a Nazi or a neo-Nazi.

    Again, you have the opportunity to prove me wrong. Show me one member who's a Trump supporter and is ok with Islam.
    Me. You are wrong. I've spent considerable time in the Middle East, and have no heartburn with Islam as a religion.

    We've already established that they're both bigots. The debate is whether or not it's ok to be bigoted towards people who are bigoted to certain races or religions. One side being against people who are making immoral choices while the other being against something pre-determined or divine.
    No, we haven't. In fact, the guy in the Phoenix incident Nick Dugas is Hispanic. He gained minor publicity status here in Phoenix for adopting a homeless boy he found sleeping behind one of the stores he manages security for.



    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ion/693064002/

    He's no bigot or racist. You are dead flat wrong on that too.

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    This in itself is typical bigotry in action. You make a sweeping generalization about Trump supporters then state, essentially, that it is perfectly fine if you go after someone wearing a MAGA hat since they must somehow be a Trump supporter.
    If someone was wearing a swastika would it be inappropriate for me to assume that he's a neo nazi?

    Next, you assume that because in your view, most Trump supporters are bigots, it's safe to assume that the person you are attacking is also a bigot-- NO PROOF NEEDED. That is you convict them as judge and jury without any evidence. It's akin to a personal lynching of someone on your part.
    Again, you have the opportunity to prove me wrong. Show me one member who's a Trump supporter and is ok with Islam.

    The whole screams that you are a bigot, and those people attacking persons wearing a MAGA hat are bigots too.
    We've already established that they're both bigots. The debate is whether or not it's ok to be bigoted towards people who are bigoted to certain races or religions. One side being against people who are making immoral choices while the other being against something pre-determined or divine.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    More on the Phoenix tire slasher. She is 18, goes to Arizona State University, and was cited for criminal damage, a class 2 misdemeanor and is looking at a possible $750 fine and up to four months in jail. She admits she was politically motivated to do the act. Because she wasn't booked into jail but simply cited and given a court date her name wasn't released.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    Nothing. As I said, it has nothing to do with the hat or slogan. It's the fact that the vast majority of Trump supporters hold racist or bigoted views and if you have that hat, you're a Trump supporter. Not sure how I can make this any more clear.
    This in itself is typical bigotry in action. You make a sweeping generalization about Trump supporters then state, essentially, that it is perfectly fine if you go after someone wearing a MAGA hat since they must somehow be a Trump supporter.

    The first mistake is assuming anyone wearing a MAGA hat supports Trump. There are other reasons one might want such a hat, or wear such a hat.
    Next, you assume that because in your view, most Trump supporters are bigots, it's safe to assume that the person you are attacking is also a bigot-- NO PROOF NEEDED. That is you convict them as judge and jury without any evidence. It's akin to a personal lynching of someone on your part.

    The whole screams that you are a bigot, and those people attacking persons wearing a MAGA hat are bigots too.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    Nothing. As I said, it has nothing to do with the hat or slogan. It's the fact that the vast majority of Trump supporters hold racist or bigoted views and if you have that hat, you're a Trump supporter. Not sure how I can make this any more clear.

    If I'm wrong, show me one member here who is both a Trump supporter and has no issue with Islam. Prove me wrong.
    Considering "Islam" is no different from Nazi/NSDAP in ideology, dogma, "theology" other than the "Deity" attached; we are looking at a "personal choice" issue regarding application of bias/bigotry/racism with regard to 'Lifestyle'; as applied to the rest of humanity.

    Bottom-line is that "Islam," is a bigoted and biased/racist chosen belief system that seeks to exclude others of alternative 'belief systems' from full citizenship within the nations that embrace "Islam".

    Given the close proximity of Islam to Nazi/NSDAP ideology/dogma; anyone whom embraces "Islam" also embraces this exclusionary and discriminatory Ideology/pseudo-religion "belief". In short, such are enemies of humanity and human equality.

    That makes "TactikillJ"/"Jay" an enemy of humanity and he should consider himself lucky to still be living when his Karma should have been recycled long ago.

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  • Nichols
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
    If I'm wrong, show me one member here who is both a Trump supporter and has no issue with Islam. Prove me wrong.
    You're wrong, I have already proven that.

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