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  • #16
    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
    A potential Trump re-election would be the best thing democrats have to rally people to vote. Likewise, a Trump impeachment would motivate conservatives unlike anything else.

    I think Pelosi is more concerned with maintaining power.
    I think she is too. I also think the more the Democrats, particularly the ones on the Left go in for Socialism, call for impeachment, and generally say really stupid stuff-- like AOC-- the more the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot come 2020.
    Trump may be hard to take for many people, but he doesn't come off as a complete idiot... contrary to the TDS crowd's opinion which is like asking the Democrat Left about that-- and given the choice between an openly tax and spend Leftist Democrat and Trump, people will hold their nose and vote Trump.

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    • #17
      Pelosi has an excessively high bovine fecal titre.
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #18
        American87 and Massena,

        Six posts deleted for personal commentary/name-calling.

        You have been warned.

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        • #19
          I think there are multiple reasons Pelosi would not support impeachment at this time,
          1.Trumps popularity among Republicans and swing voters has not been negatively affected by the constant media attacks and regardless of convictions of those associated with him.
          2. Lack of convincing evidence in Muellers report,
          3. An impeachment would give AOC and the ultra left a stage going into the general election, and that would seal defeat for the Democrats. Socialism and outright communism maybe popular in the small districts these young radicals, but on the national stage these radicals would be poison.
          4. Going into the primary and the general elections holding impeachment hearings would be a distraction to any Democrat candidates and make Trump the issue. So far that hasnít worked, Trump supporters have not abandoned him.
          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

            Except that the negative fallout is damaging our nation. Is anybody in Washington doing any real work any more?
            Have they ever in a long, long time?
            The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
              That sounds more like a coup than than anything else.
              That's a very interesting and accurate point.

              The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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              • #22
                Pelosi's last comment on Trump is right on the money-'he isn't worth it.' No truer words were ever spoken by an American politician.
                We are not now that strength which in old days
                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                  I think you've hit the nail on the head.
                  If she had a shred of hope Mueller would have something on Trump, there is no way she would say that.

                  She almost has to know there will be nothing to the report.
                  I guess they will have to come up with a new "worst thing ever" on Trump to replace this.

                  And pretend that the whole russia collusion claim never happened.
                  Where is any evidence at all that Pelosi would have a heads-up from Mueller? The investigation has been leak free-why are you people making things up? Is that part of your political wish list?
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                    That sounds more like a coup than than anything else.
                    Really? Do you even understand what a coup is?

                    We've never had one and there is no evidence at all that a coup is being planned. You're making things up which does not strengthen your 'case' for Trump.

                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post

                      Really? Do you even understand what a coup is?

                      We've never had one and there is no evidence at all that a coup is being planned. You're making things up which does not strengthen your 'case' for Trump.



                      How would you describe an effort to remove a legally elected sitting president when the leaders of that effort canít identify any basis for that removal?


                      Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                      Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Massena View Post

                        Where is any evidence at all that Pelosi would have a heads-up from Mueller? The investigation has been leak free-why are you people making things up? Is that part of your political wish list?

                        I would disagree that the investigation has been ďleak freeĒ, but that is beside the point.

                        My only evidence is logic.

                        If Pelosi had the slightest hope that the Mueller investigation would turn up something she could use, she would not have said impeachment is off the table. She would have waited for the full report.
                        If she had an inkling that the report was going to be a disappointment, then she would get ahead of the news and announce she wasnít interested in impeachment anyway.
                        Pelosi isnít an idiot. She is smart enough not to bar herself from any option that could have value before she has to do so.
                        She has now tied her own hands and gotten nothing in return for doing so. No smart politician does that.
                        Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                        Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post

                          That's a very interesting and accurate point.


                          Given that they canít identify a basis for impeachment, it is pretty clear that the real basis is political, not legal.
                          Trumpís apparent crime is that he hurts feelings and isnít a democrat.
                          Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                          Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post




                            How would you describe an effort to remove a legally elected sitting president when the leaders of that effort canít identify any basis for that removal?

                            It's called impeachment.

                            And that is identified and described in the US Constitution, Article II, Section 4. And the 'effort' itself is not being pushed or supported by the Speaker of the House. And there are enough grounds for it based on Trump's actions such as obstruction of justice which is being discussed.

                            That isn't a coup. And you haven't stated what a coup is. Need a lesson?

                            And impeachment is not a legal action, it's a political action.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post


                              I would disagree that the investigation has been ďleak freeĒ, but that is beside the point.

                              My only evidence is logic.

                              If Pelosi had the slightest hope that the Mueller investigation would turn up something she could use, she would not have said impeachment is off the table. She would have waited for the full report.
                              If she had an inkling that the report was going to be a disappointment, then she would get ahead of the news and announce she wasnít interested in impeachment anyway.
                              Pelosi isnít an idiot. She is smart enough not to bar herself from any option that could have value before she has to do so.
                              She has now tied her own hands and gotten nothing in return for doing so. No smart politician does that.
                              Then you have no evidence and if you're going to state or intimate that you disagree that the Mueller investigation has been free of leaks, please give examples. If not, then you're just making things up. Thought better of you. I guess that you're 'all in' with the Trump line of lies, distortions, etc. That is really a shame.
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                                ...I think there are multiple reasons Pelosi would not support impeachment at this time...
                                She gave her reasons. She said unless there was compelling evidence and bipartisan support, she would not vote for impeachment because the process divides the country.

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