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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post


    I've given my answer.
    My support is based on results, not mere words.

    As dumb as he is, he still managed to defeat the smartest woman in the world.

    Trump has made mistakes.
    I seem to recall BO did the same. He got us into a war in Libya (with Hillary's help)and nearly one in Syria.
    He ran away from one in Iraq and created a bigger problem.
    He gave Iran a pathway to nukes.

    All of the mistakes made by BO are huge.
    I am unaware of any mistake on a similar scale made by Trump.
    Here's one to consider:

    One of America's largest exports is Knowledge, based on the integrity of it's college systems. Trump University was a bizarre decision- and expect it to raise it's head ... and the naked truth
    to be uncovered in the 2020 campaign...
    The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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    • #32
      Originally posted by marktwain View Post

      Here's one to consider:

      One of America's largest exports is Knowledge, based on the integrity of it's college systems. Trump University was a bizarre decision- and expect it to raise it's head ...
      to be uncovered in the 2020 campaign...


      If this latest "worst thing ever" by Trump had any value, one wonders why they would refuse to disclose it until 2020.
      Perhaps more money can be raised off the promise that way.

      If Trump is guilty of every crime imaginable with respect to Trump U, it still can't reasonably or logically be compared with a war in Libya, an almost war in Syria, a nuclear threat from a terror state (Iran) and creation of a vacuum i Iraq that arguably led to the formation of ISIS.

      I will never say Trump is clean. I will only say he seems to be delivering things that I value and the alternative to trump was infinitely worse.
      Trump may lie, but Hillary has made an art form of it and has hurt the country with her lies. (Support available on request)
      Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

      Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

        Why do you keep making complex question fallacies?
        Because all he has is resentment to work with.

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        • #34
          Have you registered for your middle school level civics class yet?
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Massena View Post

            Among other nonsense that you posted, please tell us how you came to the conclusion that I was a socialist? That is nothing but an ad hominem comment that is completely without evidence and overall merit.

            Is that all you can do is falsely accuse someone with whom you disagree?

            And the majority of Republicans are in lockstep with a corrupt president. The majority of the US population is not.
            Since you claim what I posted is nonsense, that's the first clue you are a socialist-marxist whatever.
            I don't recall you speaking in favor of capitalism, free-enterprise, or incentive and reward per efforts type economics very often (actually not at all).
            If what you say of your employment and career is true, having spent the majority of your life on the receiving end of redistributed wealth often predisposes towards and is indicative of socialist leanings.
            I don't recall you ever speaking out so much about our recent socialist POTUS and his agenda to undermine our Constitution and "fundamentally change America"; nor his close associations with former domestic terrorists and other seditionists, nor his heir apparent Hillary RC whom was the alternative to Trump; so again strong inference of socialist leanings.

            Basically you repeatedly pass "the duck test" where you look, sound, and waddle like a socialist, therefore ...

            If you think Republicans are in "lockstep" to Trump*, then you and fellow socialists/Democrats were in lockstep to the seditious "manchurian candidate" POTUS we had in Obama, and his thieving and corrupt potential replacement in Hillary RC.

            With over half this nation now receiving guv'mint checks, no surprise the looters don't support a conservative leaning POTUS.

            * You might check your repeated ad hominems and insults to everyone whom doesn't agree with your raving, railing, and ranting against Trump. If you are going to continually dish such out, expect some flung back at you.
            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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            • #36
              Originally posted by marktwain View Post

              OHHH< David!
              OHHH< Reg!

              Originally posted by marktwain View Post
              while I am reluctant to lecture n your system of congress, , horse trading to get things done is how it is designed to work.
              Only do some issues lend themselves to compromise. There are principles and standards that shouldn't be compromised. Our Constitution was designed with this distinction in mind. (FWIW, I've been involved the past few years with a Constitution Knowlwedge Bowl that tests the knowledge of Middle School students regards the Constitution, it's origin,founding principles, etc.)

              Originally posted by marktwain View Post
              Be vey careful BEFORE you throw it out in order to rally blindly behind ANY leader.
              I'm not about to "throw it out"; we had that with the last POTUS and his ' "I have a pen and a phone"~who needs to work with Congress' attitude and seditious agenda to undermine our Constitution (try reading his first two books as I did). I'll remind again that many of the voices speaking out against Trump did rally blindly behind That 'community organizer' non-leader.Too many fail to appreciate that we have the least of two undesirables now in office and some of us are trying to work with rather than obstruct.

              Originally posted by marktwain View Post
              Massena is right , ...
              if one is a Leftist, Liberal, Socialist and Seditionist, he is "correct", but he is far from RIGHT.

              Originally posted by marktwain View Post
              ... as so for as a morally questionable leader is almost always bad news- I suppose you need Eastern European ancestry before you get that in your bones.
              We just got rid of a far more "morally questionable leader" and dodged getting stuck with his equally disgusting replacement.

              Interesting how you mention Eastern European ancestry (I do have some BTW) as my newest neighbor on my West side is from Poland. He was active in the Solidarity Movement and back in the early 1980s had the choice of prison or immigrant to the USA. He is a staunch Conservative and supporter of Trump. Something about living under a "worker's paradise" and seeing recent efforts here through Obama-nation to implement such in the USA may have a bit to do with his politics.

              Now my East side neighbors, the 'illegal aliens' whom "no habla Englise" and think that "me casa is me casa, you casa is me casa" are another issue of neighborly rudeness and intrusions I'll get into another time.

              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post



                If this latest "worst thing ever" by Trump had any value, one wonders why they would refuse to disclose it until 2020.
                Perhaps more money can be raised off the promise that way.

                If Trump is guilty of every crime imaginable with respect to Trump U, it still can't reasonably or logically be compared with a war in Libya, an almost war in Syria, a nuclear threat from a terror state (Iran) and creation of a vacuum i Iraq that arguably led to the formation of ISIS.

                I will never say Trump is clean. I will only say he seems to be delivering things that I value and the alternative to trump was infinitely worse.
                Trump may lie, but Hillary has made an art form of it and has hurt the country with her lies. (Support available on request)
                You are much more intelligent , and far sighted , than this.

                Post Secondary knowledge is one of America's fastest growth industries. If you compare the amount of Saudi Students in the USA to the amount of Yanks in Saudi higher education, you'll see may point. this is a home ground issue- and the tipping point that exposes the Republican party to real risk.

                I'm sure you remember :
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_U...ntial_election

                and the 'third rate burglary' that followed....

                Even an IKE cut won't save him.Image result for donald trump bald
                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                  OHHH< Reg!


                  Only do some issues lend themselves to compromise. There are principles and standards that shouldn't be compromised. Our Constitution was designed with this distinction in mind. (FWIW, I've been involved the past few years with a Constitution Knowlwedge Bowl that tests the knowledge of Middle School students regards the Constitution, it's origin,founding principles, etc.)



                  I'm not about to "throw it out"; we had that with the last POTUS and his ' "I have a pen and a phone"~who needs to work with Congress' attitude and seditious agenda to undermine our Constitution (try reading his first two books as I did). I'll remind again that many of the voices speaking out against Trump did rally blindly behind That 'community organizer' non-leader.Too many fail to appreciate that we have the least of two undesirables now in office and some of us are trying to work with rather than obstruct.

                  if one is a Leftist, Liberal, Socialist and Seditionist, he is "correct", but he is far from RIGHT.



                  We just got rid of a far more "morally questionable leader" and dodged getting stuck with his equally disgusting replacement.

                  Interesting how you mention Eastern European ancestry (I do have some BTW) as my newest neighbor on my West side is from Poland. He was active in the Solidarity Movement and back in the early 1980s had the choice of prison or immigrant to the USA. He is a staunch Conservative and supporter of Trump. Something about living under a "worker's paradise" and seeing recent efforts here through Obama-nation to implement such in the USA may have a bit to do with his politics.

                  Now my East side neighbors, the 'illegal aliens' whom "no habla Englise" and think that "me casa is me casa, you casa is me casa" are another issue of neighborly rudeness and intrusions I'll get into another time.
                  'Making the trains run on time' only worked- once....In Italy...

                  the Republican senate is lining up the bullpen, in case the Donald runs further out of the baselines. ask your Polish Neighbor about the election of Josef Beck.
                  The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Massena View Post
                    Why do you and others support a corrupt president who is inept to boot and his corrupt administration?

                    Why do you support Trump even when he continues to lie and make things up as well as falsely accuse his opponents of wrongdoing?


                    Still waiting for you to show what laws he has broken what part of the constitution he has violated. Perhaps before you accuse others of falsely accuse his opponents of wrongdoing” you should stop doing it yourself.
                    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tsar View Post


                      Still waiting for you to show what laws he has broken what part of the constitution he has violated. Perhaps before you accuse others of falsely accuse his opponents of wrongdoing” you should stop doing it yourself.

                      that has been done - rather repeatedly.

                      On the fake University alone, the Donald has paid out over 25million, with more suits in the pipeline, TO SETTLE OUT OF COURT.


                      The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by marktwain View Post


                        that has been done - rather repeatedly.

                        On the fake University alone, the Donald has paid out over 25million, with more suits in the pipeline, TO SETTLE OUT OF COURT.




                        Payment of a settlement is not proof of wrongdoing.
                        It can suggest it, but nothing more.

                        All settlement agreements contain a clause providing that the paying party explicitly denies liability and the settlement is not an admission of fault.
                        This would lead one to wonder why they are paying.
                        It really is simple.

                        In many cases the cost of winning is more expensive than paying the settlement.
                        The concept is known as a "Cost of defense" offer.

                        There was a recent medical malpractice case here where the hospital clearly was going to win, but they still paid $50,000 because that was less than what defending the case would have cost.


                        I am not defending trump U. Just trying to correct a misconception about settlements
                        Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                        Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                        • #42
                          Correction duly noted......
                          Something we all have to remember is it pays to keep a cool prospective If the POTUS can run a solid administration, then I suppose ...........

                          Speaking of .settlements' - there was a bitter dispute in this forum five years ago over the Cremisian valley.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremisan_Valley

                          All respondents, including the ones who posted red marks all over my site ratings, may be interested in the outcome:

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32171577

                          Even good people, such as Israel- make mistakes. 95% of the barrier fence won't be built.....
                          The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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