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    27.5 million tons of US soybeans expected to go unsold this year as a direct consequence of the trade war with China

    https://www.businessinsider.de/trump...X88c&r=US&IR=T

    So much wining


    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

  • #2
    Phew. Based on this thread's title I feared that you might have read his book....
    I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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    • #3
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #4
        Confiscate all those beans as an emergency measure, grind them into flour, add water and mix into a dough. cut dough into oblongs, triple bake then until they are brick hard with a glaze - use to build wall - problem solved really solved
        Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
        Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MarkV View Post
          Confiscate all those beans as an emergency measure, grind them into flour, add water and mix into a dough. cut dough into oblongs, triple bake then until they are brick hard with a glaze - use to build wall - problem solved really solved
          You don't think there's a risk those pesky Mexicans won't just scrounge some rice and eat the wall then? It's beans after all...

          Someone should really warn the President!

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          • #6
            There are millions of starving people all over the world. Someone will buy them...and probably resell them to the Chinese who still have to feed one billion people. Or the Japanese will use them to stock up on Tofu and Soy Sauce.

            Nil desperado
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MarkV View Post
              Confiscate all those beans as an emergency measure, grind them into flour, add water and mix into a dough. cut dough into oblongs, triple bake then until they are brick hard with a glaze - use to build wall - problem solved really solved
              And impregnate them with plenty of Exlax. Anyone eating the wall will crap themselves to death before they get anywhere near America.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                Confiscate all those beans as an emergency measure, grind them into flour, add water and mix into a dough. cut dough into oblongs, triple bake then until they are brick hard with a glaze - use to build wall - problem solved really solved
                Man o Man, you got to love that British cuisine!
                Sounds like the chow my dad ate in Sussex- 1944.
                The trout who swims against the current gets the most oxygen..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by marktwain View Post

                  Man o Man, you got to love that British cuisine!
                  Sounds like the chow my dad ate in Sussex- 1944.
                  There were no soy beans in Sussex in 1944.
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #10
                    UPDATE 1-China commits to buy 10 mln tonnes U.S. soy in White House meeting -Perdue

                    https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...-idUSL1N20H1RJ

                    I didn't think China would hold out too long because they need our soybeans to feed their pigs. They buy soybeans from other countries as well, like Brazil and Argentina but they need more...they need our soybeans.
                    Last edited by Persephone; 23 Feb 19, 20:13.
                    "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

                    "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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                    • #11
                      The United Soybean Board is currently looking at other markets to sell soybeans. There are so many other uses for soybean.


                      INDUSTRIAL USES OF SOY
                      Updated: November 1, 2018
                      Manufacturers of both industrial and consumer products use soybean oil and meal to replace petroleum and other volatile or hazardous ingredients, as well as increase product performance. The versatility of U.S. soybean components makes product applications remarkably wide-ranging, including rubber, fiber, coatings, solvents, plastics, lubricants and adhesives.

                      Adding yet another reason for product manufacturers to look at using soybeans, high oleic soybeans provide industrial users with an oil that remains stable in high-heat conditions. With the potential to add demand for soybeans in markets that require performance under high-heat conditions — such as synthetic motor oils and automotive lubricants — high oleic soybeans are currently grown in 12 states.1

                      In addition to helping manufacturers reduce their dependency on petrochemicals and insulate themselves from price fluctuations for raw materials, soybeans enable manufacturers to replace possible carcinogens and satisfy consumer demand for sustainable, environmentally-friendly products.2

                      The future for soy-based products looks bright, with USB’s Soy Products Guidecontaining 1,000+ soy-based products currently on the market — from flooring and roofing products to candles and personal care items.

                      https://unitedsoybean.org/media-cent...fs/industrial/
                      "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

                      "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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                      • #12
                        all not needed. Screws the US farmer and the national debt paying the farmers for their losses.
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                          There were no soy beans in Sussex in 1944.
                          Wrong. Soya beans were first imported into Britain in 1908 from Manchuria, initially for oil production but milling of soya meal and flour followed soon and the trade increased - South America becoming a major source. During WW2 Soya imports increased as it became a substitute for meat based proteins. Soy beans and soya beans are interchangeable names for the same product
                          Last edited by MarkV; 24 Feb 19, 06:31.
                          Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                          Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Persephone View Post


                            I didn't think China would hold out too long because they need our soybeans to feed their pigs. They buy soybeans from other countries as well, like Brazil and Argentina but they need more...they need our soybeans.
                            The problem with fighting a trade war with a state like China is that they don't have lobbies etc and the Communist Party is not that worried about imposing economic hardships on its people to win a political point - they take a long view sometimes and they don't have to worry about winning next years election.
                            Last edited by MarkV; 24 Feb 19, 06:55.
                            Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                            Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                            • #15
                              And Trump didn't even write the book...
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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