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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
    The left raised plenty of noise over Wal Mart.
    That's what I said.

    The right was the one saying don't whine about automation when you demand workers be paid more than their worth. The right did join with the left in criticizing their monpoly strategies but that was about it. And moderate antitrust regs are right wing thought. Only libertarians want zero regs.
    The right joined the left in criticizing what WalMart pays their employees and their "monopoly". I never bought a single thing out of Walmart in my life, which is certainly not indicative of a company that has a monopoly. The right considers any big and successful business a monopoly. 0 difference between the two parties of big government. Check the thread I linked to.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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    • #32
      Di Blasio blames Amazon, not those like Ocasio-Cortez who opposed Amazon's coming to Queens.

      Sandanista Bill is getting old.

      https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/tech/...hq2/index.html
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #33
        Maybe OC has some potential, she seems to want to Champion FDR but has wrt the Amazon fiasco gotten away from liberalism. People make mistakes and OC has got to realize that Americans need jobs.

        One can feel for the people of NYC, 25k jobs guaranteed at 15$ an hour thats 22$ per overtime hour, are not coming to the city. Here in Buffalo Amazon has a huge plant providing good jobs to the people. From what I hear it is a tough job, constant work apparently managers alawys on the backs of employees its the same with Geico...

        https://www.newsweek.com/amazon-driv...bernie-1118849

        https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...-op-ed-2018-11

        https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/amaz...ck-friday.html

        So Amazon should have a strong Union provided to its employees but at the least lets give Amazon credit for raising its MW.
        Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM

        Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

        George S Patton

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        • #34
          I don't believe that she has any 'potential' at all except to being a marplot...
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #35
            A healthy congress should be infused with different ideas, people of different backgrounds and ideologies. It's on her to convince the rest of the public that her way is the best way. Until then, there's no reason to worry or be upset by her remarks. Just take it as democracy and freedom in action.
            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            - Benjamin Franklin

            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
              A healthy congress should be infused with different ideas, people of different backgrounds and ideologies. It's on her to convince the rest of the public that her way is the best way. Until then, there's no reason to worry or be upset by her remarks. Just take it as democracy and freedom in action.
              And it is up to us to make up our minds about those who are supposed to represent us. She's acting like a jackass, is clearly demonstrating that she is ignorant in matters of economic importance, and in that she is selling those whom she represents short.
              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Massena View Post

                And it is up to us to make up our minds about those who are supposed to represent us. She's acting like a jackass, is clearly demonstrating that she is ignorant in matters of economic importance, and in that she is selling those whom she represents short.
                I'm not sure where you live, but she's personally not my representative and thus doesn't represent me. I can only assume that this is what her constituents wanted, as this is exactly who they voted for. So it's hard to argue that she's selling them short if they're getting what they wanted. Even though I disagree with her opinions I have much more respect for that, compared to the typical politicians who say they're one thing but act completely different once in office.

                Having different opinions doesn't make someone a jackass. Bearing in mind that there is no such thing as a utopia, all political ideologies have their own set of unique pros and cons. So I can't tell someone that they're wrong or a jackass for having a certain preference. But, what I can tell them is that their ideas do not align with those of traditional American ideologies.
                "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                - Benjamin Franklin

                The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Massena View Post
                  I don't believe that she has any 'potential' at all except to being a marplot...
                  We agree on something, it’s like old times..
                  Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                  Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                    A healthy congress should be infused with different ideas, people of different backgrounds and ideologies. It's on her to convince the rest of the public that her way is the best way. Until then, there's no reason to worry or be upset by her remarks. Just take it as democracy and freedom in action.
                    A “healthy Congress”?
                    Did it have to turn it’s head and cough?
                    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                    • #40

                      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                      A healthy congress should be infused with different ideas, people of different backgrounds and ideologies. It's on her to convince the rest of the public that her way is the best way. Until then, there's no reason to worry or be upset by her remarks. Just take it as democracy and freedom in action.

                      We have, and have had enough Idiots in Congress and we just added another one!
                      Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
                        Maybe OC has some potential, she seems to want to Champion FDR but has wrt the Amazon fiasco gotten away from liberalism. People make mistakes and OC has got to realize that Americans need jobs.

                        One can feel for the people of NYC, 25k jobs guaranteed at 15$ an hour thats 22$ per overtime hour, are not coming to the city. Here in Buffalo Amazon has a huge plant providing good jobs to the people. From what I hear it is a tough job, constant work apparently managers alawys on the backs of employees its the same with Geico...

                        https://www.newsweek.com/amazon-driv...bernie-1118849

                        https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...-op-ed-2018-11

                        https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/amaz...ck-friday.html

                        So Amazon should have a strong Union provided to its employees but at the least lets give Amazon credit for raising its MW.
                        Deep State talking about Deep State .

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jannie View Post
                          SlickMeister always used to preach about how Robert Moses ruined NYC. I thought of his elucidations when I read this article about Moses'’ legacy. Was it his legacy that stopped Amazon? Is there really a board in Albany that gets to rule on all development in New York State? Is that Robert Moses' legacy?
                          I'm flattered that you thought of me and my rants when this item hit the news. You're making me feel like I'm having a positive impact. Perhaps your kind words might nispire me to run for public office.



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                          Thanks for the levity. I needed that.

                          Originally posted by Jannie View Post
                          I also suspect that some hostility from the Trump-Kushner real estate empire contributed to it being stopped. If Bezos had brought 20,000 $150,000 jobs to Long Island City would that have made the Bezos' empire stronger than Trumps'?
                          Not a chance. All three voting positions on the PACB are controlled by Democrats, and Trump's friends know that -- hence their silence about this Amazon project. Had they objected publicly, it've been a certainty that the PACB would've approved it wholeheartedly.

                          But as uplifting as that fantasy may be, it ignores a more mundane reality. In all likelihood, Amazon could have worked with the deal’s biggest champions, Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio, to push past the limited public hostility— [. . . . ] most New Yorkers supported Amazon’s plan to bring thousands of new jobs to the region. The difference today is that no amount of leverage is capable of overcoming resistance from a small star chamber in Albany known as the Public Authorities Control Board. Without unanimous support from the three voting members of the PACB, Amazon’s plan was dead in the water.
                          [...…]
                          After roughly 40 years as New York’s master builder, Moses was shown the door by Gov. Nelson Rockefeller in the 1960s. By then, the public was seething and New York seemed to be on the decline. The PACB is one of a raft of new tools established in the wake of Moses’ reign to check the power of government to build new public works and other redevelopment projects.
                          [...…]
                          Amazon’s detractors had a range of legitimate concerns, and experts can argue about the merit of this particular deal. But Amazon isn’t packing up because of public resistance to too many tax breaks or a helipad. It’s leaving because, like in much of the country, the architecture of political power has changed. In ways Robert Moses could never have imagined, those with big dreams now suffer interminably from the absence of leverage. Moses’ final legacy is that he made it impossible to get things done.”"

                          Read the whole thing at https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ew-york-225077
                          Robert Moses' legacy includes public commitment to passenger car travel in a region unsuited for it at the expense of mass transit, thousands of people displaced, and crushing public debt most of which remains unpaid nearly four decades after the Master Builder's death. Three was a time when one man's vision was rendered in billions of tons of steel and concrete, but the price proved too high for the society which that one man ostensibly served. Therefore the State of New York enacted a mechanism by which Moses' excesses could be restrained. Don't worry, though: it's all fluff. For the right combination of fiscal and political inducements, the PACB -- aka "three men in a room" -- will authorize 'most any project imaginable. Just ask The New York Times: in exchange for political endorsements at election time, all the public figures involved invoked eminent domain to drive out Times Square's pornography retailers so that The Old Gray Lady could build herself a shiny new headquarters on Eight Avenue. Amazon's failing was that they didn't produce the kind of goodies that would appeal to that third man in the room, in this case the NYS Senate majority leader.

                          When Amazon announced plans for a campus in Long Island City, local opposition quickly followed. Now, that opposition has a more prominent voice.

                          On Monday, the new Democratic majority in the State Senate appointed a vocal critic of the Amazon deal to a board that has veto power, the New York Times reported. Sen. Michael Gianaris of Queens will be among three voting members of the Public Authorities Control Board — and any voting member has the power to block projects that come before it.

                          The new majority leader, Andrea Stewart-Cousins, sent a letter about the selection to Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who has to approve it. It’s unclear whether he’ll sign off on the appointment, the report said. Gianaris has frequently criticized Cuomo and deemed the incentives for the Amazon deal “offensive.” . . . .

                          "Amazon LIC critic named to key board that can veto project," by Meenal Vamburkar, The Real Deal, 4 Feb 2019
                          Guess Jeff Bezos isn't that creative after all. He should've taken a lesson from old Bob Moses: when he wanted to clear out several thousand reliable Democratic voters, he asked Bronx Democratic boss Ed Flynn what he would have to do to make Lincoln Center a reality. Flynn told him that he'd have to make the Kennedy's happy: they owned a chunk of the real estate upon which Moses wanted to build his proposed performing arts center -- so Moses' public authorities paid Bobby Kennedy six times the market price for his land, and then freely evicted those tenants, all so that the mink coat crowd would have someplace to go to watch the opera.

                          PACB is just political eyewash. They've proven time and again that when they want, they'll build anything anywhere they please -- consequences be damned.
                          I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                          • #43
                            Good news for the Snowflakes and Massena : AOC has now her own strip on Devil's Due Comics .
                            She is now Wonder Woman .

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                            • #44
                              Too funny not to share:

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                              You'll live, only the best get killed.

                              -General Charles de Gaulle

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                              • #45
                                I wonder if her arm hurts...?
                                We are not now that strength which in old days
                                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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