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  • Trung Si
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    More Far-Right Nonsense

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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    This woman is both stupid and utterly wrong. The anti-vaccination crowd is dangerous and putting children's lives at risk.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wi...cid=spartandhp
    Why is this "far-right nonsense"?

    Let's start with the guy who started this.

    Andrew Jeremy Wakefield (born 1957)[1][2] is a discredited former British doctor who became an anti-vaccine activist. He was a gastroenterologist until he was struck off the UK medical register for unethical behaviour, misconduct and dishonesty. In 1998 he was the lead author of a fraudulent research paper claiming that there was a link between the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism and bowel disease.[3][4][5][6][7]

    After the publication of the paper, other researchers were unable to reproduce Wakefield's findings or confirm his hypothesis of an association between the MMR vaccine and autism,[8] or autism and gastrointestinal disease.[9] A 2004 investigation by Sunday Times reporter Brian Deer identified undisclosed financial conflicts of interest on Wakefield's part,[10] and most of his co-authors then withdrew their support for the study's interpretations.[11] The British General Medical Council (GMC) conducted an inquiry into allegations of misconduct against Wakefield and two former colleagues.[12] The investigation centred on Deer's numerous findings, including that children with autism were subjected to unnecessary invasive medical procedures such as colonoscopies and lumbar punctures,[13] and that Wakefield acted without the required ethical approval from an institutional review board.

    On 28 January 2010, a five-member statutory tribunal of the GMC found three dozen charges proved, including four counts of dishonesty and 12 counts involving the abuse of developmentally delayed children.[14] The panel ruled that Wakefield had "failed in his duties as a responsible consultant", acted both against the interests of his patients, and "dishonestly and irresponsibly" in his published research.[15][16][17]The Lancet fully retracted the 1998 publication on the basis of the GMC's findings, noting that elements of the manuscript had been falsified.[18]The Lancet's editor-in-chief Richard Horton said the paper was "utterly false" and that the journal had been "deceived".[19] Three months following The Lancet's retraction, Wakefield was struck off the UK medical register, with a statement identifying deliberate falsification in the research published in The Lancet,[20] and was thereby barred from practising medicine in the UK.[21]

    In January 2011, an editorial accompanying an article by Brian Deer in BMJ described Wakefield's work as an "elaborate fraud".[3][22][23] In a follow-up article,[24] Deer said that Wakefield had planned to launch a venture on the back of an MMR vaccination scare that would profit from new medical tests and "litigation driven testing".[25] In November 2011, another report in BMJ[26] revealed original raw data indicating that, contrary to Wakefield's claims in The Lancet, children in his research did not have inflammatory bowel disease.[27][28]

    Wakefield's study and his claim that the MMR vaccine might cause autism led to a decline in vaccination rates in the United States, United Kingdom and Ireland and a corresponding rise in measles and mumps, resulting in serious illness and deaths, and his continued claims that the vaccine is harmful have contributed to a climate of distrust of all vaccines and the reemergence of other previously controlled diseases.[29][30][31] Wakefield has continued to defend his research and conclusions, saying there was no fraud, hoax or profit motive.[32][33] In February 2015, he publicly repeated his denials and refused to back down from his assertions,[34] even though—as stated by a British Administrative Court Justice in a related decision—"There is now no respectable body of opinion which supports (Dr. Wakefield's) hypothesis, that MMR vaccine and autism/enterocolitis are causally linked"

    Biographical entry for Andrew Wakefield, Wikipedia
    In a nutshell, the link between the MMR vaccine and autism wasn't only erroneous, it was patently fraudulent. Now we've established the foundation of this little myth.

    I first heard of the MMR-autism link from my aunt and her ex-husband: unreformed hippies living the dream in New Haven CT. They refused MMR for their children, as did a good number of their neighbors. They should have known better, though: they're both seasoned RNs, specializing in public health. They're as far from "right-wing" as the earth is from the Eagle Nebula (about 7,000 light years, if you were curious.) They're educated, trained, experienced practitioners -- yet they came to believe that MMR caused autism. Even at the time I felt that their view of MMR was colored by their politics, and I still believe that to this day.

    Recently Exorcist mentioned how resistance to MMR may have precipitated a measles outbreak in Oregon: a state not exactly known for its "far-right-ness."

    Not too long ago Samantha Bee took on lefties who oppose MMR. I repeat: Samantha Bee skewered lefties for opposing MMR.

    The bimbo you've cited in your OP may be a raving righty, but make no mistake about it: fear of MMR seems to infect both the left and right wing-nut fringes.

    And it risks hurting not only thousands of children, but potentially whole communities, as well. It's stupid, and it's dangerous.

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  • Massena
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    Of course, it is all the fault of illegals. It wouldn't be the fault of those parents who refuse to have their children vaccinated.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.a7b2a5ffde8c

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/patient-z...211013634.html

    This is the type of ignorance that leads to not vaccinated children in the US and leads to things like the current measles outbreak.

    And the driver/cause of the outbreak is a failure/refusal to vaccinate.

    https://thinkprogress.org/vaccine-di...-232933224811/
    Last edited by Massena; 14 Feb 19, 10:57.

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  • SRV Ron
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    You do realize that a circle can represent views with the Middle of the Road as top dead center. The Right goes to the right side, the Left to the left side, Guess where the extremes of both meet? Dead center at the bottom.

    Between those that refuse to vaccinate their kids and the illegals flooding into the country from countries with shoddy disease prevention programs, there is an alarming number of cases of serious infectious diseases now breaking out in places where those illegals are moving in.

    Obviously, we have our own problem with a small minority of people who don’t want to get vaccinated, but ultimately these new outbreaks, such as the recent measles outbreak, are originating from other countries. Certainly, even if we didn’t have illegal immigration, there’s always a risk of bringing in diseases from the cross-border travel of Americans. However, there is no denying that the 800-pound gorilla in the room is the fact that millions of illegals have come over the border this generation from very risk-prone countries without ever being screened in detention facilities because they were never apprehended. It’s simply unacceptable that our government refuses to study this issue further and consider this as a major factor when deciding policies that incentivize caravans and other invasions.

    Have we become so political as a nation that political correctness will allow us to revert to the 18th-century health standards? Ironically, the Left is obsessed with creating a monopoly for the insurance cartel under the guise of promoting health care, but they seem to never care about the actual “care” part. This is why the government and the media have stifled any data on this issue and we never hear any concern about the resurgence in diseases very plausibly emanating from this gaping hole in our public health defense. One journal article from the Infectious Disease Society of America in 2009 agonized over the “ethical concerns” that the “publication of the results would lead to increased stigmatization and discrimination of undocumented persons in the United States and to harsher measures, such as deportation, when these persons receive a diagnosis of TB.”

    From our earliest colonial laws, through state regulations and our first federal immigration laws, our politicians always sought to protect this country from diseases brought in through immigration. Courts in the 1800s even ruled that states didn’t violate the foreign commerce clause by regulating the flow of ships in order to prevent those with diseases from landing on their shores (New York v. Milne, 1837).

    Indeed, by creating new “rights” at the expense of the social compact right of Americans to sovereignty, we are neither more enlightened, advanced or more progressive than our forefathers. In fact, our robust knowledge about diseases and our deft ability to prevent them make our utter disregard for the public health concerns of open borders all the more regressive and benighted.
    https://www.conservativereview.com/n...in-the-making/

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  • Half Pint John
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    Her long relationship with Fox has affected her mind as well.

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  • Massena
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    More Far-Right Nonsense

    This woman is both stupid and utterly wrong. The anti-vaccination crowd is dangerous and putting children's lives at risk.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wi...cid=spartandhp

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