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  • #16
    Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post

    Massena my friend this is not the way forward. Omar voiced criticism of Israel as she would with Saudi Arabia. There is no religious bigotry from Omar, the anti Americans want good folk like you to believe there is perhaps to distract us from real world issues directly affecting our fellow Americans like jobs.

    To all readers, Omar actually was at the SOTU address and cheered for Trump on points all Americans can agree with. Omar stood clapping numerous times for Trump.

    The anti Americans are going to lose and freedom will prevail.
    She's a dumbazz, too. You're falling for the same trap as many others. You condone dumbazzery on your own side of the political spectrum but condemn it on the other. Sorry, dumbazzery is dumbazzery, no matter who says it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by johns624 View Post

      She's a dumbazz, too. You're falling for the same trap as many others. You condone dumbazzery on your own side of the political spectrum but condemn it on the other. Sorry, dumbazzery is dumbazzery, no matter who says it.
      I disagree here partner. I just do not see Gov Northam in the same category as those accused of sexual assault. Wearing blackface and making an off colored remark is one thing, of which Northam denies the blackface...these issues are not comparable to forcing oneself on another.

      As for Omar. Well she is in the wrong for apologizing when she need not apologize.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
        There is a lot of confusion over slavery because it doesn't come in just one manifestation. Slavery existed before the African slave trade and historically it looked more like a caste or class system than a system based on race as in the southern U.S.

        In many ways the slave culture in the U.S. grew out of traditional class structures. The Southern culture resembles nothing more than an imitation of European landed nobility. The problem of course for the plantation "nobility" was that it was becoming increasingly difficult to prevent class mobility. The answer was to create a class structure based partly on race. Black slaves could not stop being slaves locking them into an inescapable lowest caste status.

        To justify a slave system in an age of increasing class mobility it was necessary to dehumanize African's. That particular strategy itself was not particularly unique. In India and Japan the problem of getting people to do the nastiest work the class structure of untouchables was invented. Those structures were in many ways as rigid as African slavery but relied on the relative lack of preindustrial mobility instead of race.

        It is popular in some circles to suggest that slavery benefited the U.S. by providing a supply of cheap labor. The historical evidence is to the contrary. In countries where rigid class structures existed they lagged behind in economic development. The serf system in Russia did not make it relatively wealthy. The caste system in India and Japan did not make those countries relatively wealthy. In the U.S. the landed nobility system was a major obstacle to economic development which played a role in the South's defeat in the civil war. Especially in terms of infrastructure.

        In away we are seeing the same pattern repeat itself. Across the Western world a new caste system based on intellectual institutions is developing. The deplorables terminology could almost be a substitute for untouchables. As wealth is concentrated in the coastal elites the same old patterns of a loss of interest in infrastructure and other practical concerns has developed.

        The tech and financial industries are in a way analogous to the gold importation industry of Colonial Spain. Just as social status could be bought within the caste system with gold social status today can be bought with intellectual properties and financial instruments without increasing the country's tangible wealth.

        A half century of bread and circus has not improved the relative economic welfare of minorities any more than the Gold that poured into the Spanish crown left Spain a rich country. The lesson is that you do not become wealthy as a culture when your infrastructure including labor is in decline. The post industrial concept is as vacuous as most of what the 60s generation produced. Almost the entire wealth of the nation has gone into luxus. Extravagant housing, entertainment, luxury foods and wines, drugs, feel good educations, luxury automobiles, and ponzi schemes.

        Our problems are not inequality so much as a decadent class structure which includes many of the people calling for socialism. What provides meaning in life is family, productivity, and community not class status. Luxus seems to unavoidably lead to nihilism.
        Actually slavery has always come in one manifestation. People being property. The same applies whether they were Africans transported to America, British sailors and Irish villagers captured and enslaved by the Moors or slaves in ancient Rome.
        It is not about a slave cast. Slaves were outside of that. There were poor free people in Rome, North Africa and the Southern US who were a world away from being slaves.
        "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Surrey View Post

          Actually slavery has always come in one manifestation. People being property. The same applies whether they were Africans transported to America, British sailors and Irish villagers captured and enslaved by the Moors or slaves in ancient Rome.
          It is not about a slave cast. Slaves were outside of that. There were poor free people in Rome, North Africa and the Southern US who were a world away from being slaves.
          When you think about these issues as a matter of kind instead of degree their true nature is more elusive.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by johns624 View Post

            No, he's just a dumbazz.
            Yezz, he's just a dumbazz. He apologized for dressing up in a blackface/KKK picture, recanted his apology, then said the first slaves were contracted laborers. What's he going to say next?
            "It is a fine fox chase, my boys"

            "It is well that war is so terrible-we would grow too fond of it"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by American87 View Post

              Yezz, he's just a dumbazz. He apologized for dressing up in a blackface/KKK picture, recanted his apology, then said the first slaves were contracted laborers. What's he going to say next?
              Dressed up in white robes and sympathetic to slavery? Sounds like a traditional Democrat....
              "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Surrey View Post

                Dressed up in white robes and sympathetic to slavery? Sounds like a traditional Democrat....

                YES! Obama was all for that.

                Hog wash!

                Once upon a time, in some parts of the US but not today.
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                  YES! Obama was all for that.

                  Hog wash!

                  Once upon a time, in some parts of the US but not today.
                  Yes today. Look at the thread title.
                  "It is a fine fox chase, my boys"

                  "It is well that war is so terrible-we would grow too fond of it"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Massena View Post
                    Virginia Governor Refers to the First Slaves as 'Indentured Servants'

                    Racism in America is still warmly at home where it has always rested, firmly embraced and nurtured by the Democrat Party. Now that the Virginia Governor has inadvertently revealed that truth once again it is no wonder the party at large is calling for his removal. I mean never mind his support for the abortion of full-term babies, he let slip the truth.

                    Can't have that.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Martok View Post


                      Racism in America is still warmly at home where it has always rested, firmly embraced and nurtured by the Democrat Party. Now that the Virginia Governor has inadvertently revealed that truth once again it is no wonder the party at large is calling for his removal. I mean never mind his support for the abortion of full-term babies, he let slip the truth.

                      Can't have that.

                      Simply not worth replying with out any thing but BS.

                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #26
                        Slavery was a Democrat institution. Democrats fought both politically and militarily to defend it. Following the American Civil War Democrats spawned the KKK. Segregation, poll taxes, Jim Crow laws, the Repeal Act of 1894, the filibuster of the Civil Rights Act, Orville Fabus, Lestor Maddox, a sitting Senator who was a proud member of the KKK, these are all proud legacies of the Democrat Party. History isn't on your side.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Martok View Post
                          Slavery was a Democrat institution. Democrats fought both politically and militarily to defend it. Following the American Civil War Democrats spawned the KKK. Segregation, poll taxes, Jim Crow laws, the Repeal Act of 1894, the filibuster of the Civil Rights Act, Orville Fabus, Lestor Maddox, a sitting Senator who was a proud member of the KKK, these are all proud legacies of the Democrat Party. History isn't on your side.
                          Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: The Democrats are the real racists because the GOP is the party of Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr. Surely you’ve read the oft-repeated anecdote about how the Republican Party ended slavery and most importantly, fought for the passage of the Civil Rights Act.


                          All of this is correct.

                          They say the best jokes are based in reality. So when accusations of racism enter into any political debate, conservatives invariably regurgitate those previously-mentioned bullet points from the recurring, well-rehearsed Republican comedy routine.
                          What they fail to mention, however, is that the party to which they refer to no longer exists. The only thing that remains of the original Republican Party is the name. And how the Grand Ole Party transformed itself from the party of Lincoln into the current version—a white, Southern party rife with racial resentment—has become a forgotten tale that takes advantage of America’s lack of historical knowledge and abundance of short-term memory when it comes to race.

                          It is true that the Republican Party was founded on the principles of anti-slavery. They were so in favor of ending America’s peculiar institution that they were often called “Black Republicans” as a slur. They also believed in welcoming immigrants with open arms, elected the first woman to Congress and supported black suffrage.

                          In fact, most blacks identified with the GOP from Reconstruction until the election of Franklin Roosevelt. Until Carol Mosely Braun’s election in 1992, every African American who served in the United States Senatebelonged to the Republican Party. Twenty-one black men served in the House of Representatives before a black Democrat was elected. It was the party of progressive values.

                          The Democratic Party, on the other hand, was the party of the South. It was the party of social conservatism. It wanted to preserve slavery and segregation. It opposed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. It was the party of states rights, small government and Jim Crow.

                          The Democrats wouldn’t even allow blacks at the convention until 1924, mostly to appease the Southern base of the party still butthurt about losing the Civil War (they still haven’t gotten over that one). After the Civil War, the Democrats in the “Solid South” blamed Republicans for ending slavery and refused to vote for them.

                          Then something happened.

                          That something was racism.

                          After Democratic President Harry Truman’s desegregated the Army and the Democratic Party said they would support laws that ended Jim Crow, 35 delegates from the Deep South walked out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention and formed the Dixiecrat Party. They elected Strom Thurmond as their leader, who would never identify as a Democrat again.

                          After Democratic President Harry Truman’s desegregated the Army and the Democratic Party said they would support laws that ended Jim Crow, 35 delegates from the Deep South walked out of the 1948 Democratic National Convention and formed the Dixiecrat Party. They elected Strom Thurmond as their leader, who would never identify as a Democrat again.


                          In 1957, Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent federal troops into Arkansas to desegregate Little Rock Central High School. In 1963, John F. Kennedy, a Democrat, broke with the party ideology and used Eisenhower’s playbook to federalize the Alabama National Guard and force the desegregation at the University of Alabama.

                          Then came the breaking point that would basically change the party affiliation of Southern voters. Shortly before the election of 1964, Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act.

                          The “Solid South” would never vote for a Democrat president again.
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                          • #28
                            History 101:

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a7dQXilCo

                            The parties switching......breaking down the 3 myths:

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiprVX4os2Y

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Nichols View Post

                              History 101:

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a7dQXilCo

                              The parties switching......breaking down the 3 myths:

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiprVX4os2Y
                              What does the left do when they don't like facts:

                              https://www.change.org/p/vanderbilt-...or-carol-swain

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Massena View Post
                                This person doesn't know the difference between slavery and indentured servitude. His knowledge of history is lacking, even of his own state. He and the other two stooges are morons.


                                https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...k-in-politics/
                                First post in ages! Seems like whenever I tried to visit the forum was down.

                                Anyways, I think Northam needs to go, as do Fairfax and the state Attorney General ... problem is politics. If all three of them go down the Republican House speaker becomes the governor.

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