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  • #16
    Originally posted by OJsDad View Post

    If you did have a party, no one would show
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #17
      Whether or not you can understand that I am an independent regarding political party is irrelevant. And your opinion(s) in that matter are also irrelevant.

      I became an independent precisely because of Trump, his lack of character, and his short-sided or ignorant policies both 'foreign and domestic.' I'm not an extremist, but you can believe what you want. That you and your ilk support Trump without question does mark you as extremists because Trump is an extremist and has hurt this country greatly in the last two years. You must agree with ignorance, divisiveness and a lack of character and judgment since you support, without question, what he does and is.

      Frankly, that is nothing short of disgusting.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Massena View Post
        Whether or not you can understand that I am an independent regarding political party is irrelevant. And your opinion(s) in that matter are also irrelevant.

        I became an independent precisely because of Trump, his lack of character, and his short-sided or ignorant policies both 'foreign and domestic.' I'm not an extremist, but you can believe what you want. That you and your ilk support Trump without question does mark you as extremists because Trump is an extremist and has hurt this country greatly in the last two years. You must agree with ignorance, divisiveness and a lack of character and judgment since you support, without question, what he does and is.

        Frankly, that is nothing short of disgusting.
        You consistently pass "the duck test"; look like, quack like, waddle like; only we can substitute Liberal/Democrat to match your partisan positions and ideological record.

        I don't recall you objecting one tenth as much when your "guy" and hero was in the White House spending eight years on his seditious and traitorous agenda - Make America Grovel Again, with help from his "former" domestic terrorist friends, etc.


        Then it appears you voted for and support his intended replacement; hag Hillary. Before you 'doth protest too much' a reminder that there was only going to be one or the other winning that 2016 election and if you denigrate and slam the one, you by default support the other ...

        ... or do you have some "genius" third option that none of us knew of and had no way to win?
        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Massena View Post
          Trump's 'executive time' is nothing more than laziness and ignoring his responsibilities as president. Maybe that's why he's fat?

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartanntp
          Perhaps he's more efficient than his predecessor and doesn't need to spend so much time and effort circumventing the Constitution to effect an agenda of "fundamental change and reform of 'Amerika' " like your hero BHO did ?!
          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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          • #20
            Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

            Perhaps he's more efficient than his predecessor and doesn't need to spend so much time and effort circumventing the Constitution to effect an agenda of "fundamental change and reform of 'Amerika' " like your hero BHO did ?!
            nope just the right having a double standard. Don't got no time for golf Don't waste money on vacation I seem to recall those being big issues by some on the right Now Trump is on Track to rack up more money on vacations than Obama and has spent more time golfing.

            Plus Trump does not go to work like he suppose to. Granted the job can be done from home but there a lot of people who have to go into the office even though they can be just as effective from home because it is a job.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Massena View Post
              Whether or not you can understand that I am an independent regarding political party is irrelevant. And your opinion(s) in that matter are also irrelevant.

              I became an independent precisely because of Trump, his lack of character, and his short-sided or ignorant policies both 'foreign and domestic.' I'm not an extremist, but you can believe what you want. That you and your ilk support Trump without question does mark you as extremists because Trump is an extremist and has hurt this country greatly in the last two years. You must agree with ignorance, divisiveness and a lack of character and judgment since you support, without question, what he does and is.

              Frankly, that is nothing short of disgusting.
              Again, it has been pointed out to you repeatedly that we have all criticized Trump. That you STILL persist in believing that your critics support him unequivocally despite repeated demonstrations to the contrary speaks not only to political extremism but also possible mental issues. If a person can criticize Trump and you accuse him of not criticizing Trump then you either have severely deficient powers of perception, a mild mental handicap affecting your reading comprehension, or the beginnings of dementia.

              Personal commentary deleted by ACG Staff

              It's not good when the only two possible explanations for your behavior are being a mental invalid or a scoundrel.
              Last edited by Salinator; 14 Feb 19, 16:36.
              A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by craven View Post

                nope just the right having a double standard. Don't got no time for golf Don't waste money on vacation I seem to recall those being big issues by some on the right Now Trump is on Track to rack up more money on vacations than Obama and has spent more time golfing.

                Plus Trump does not go to work like he suppose to. Granted the job can be done from home but there a lot of people who have to go into the office even though they can be just as effective from home because it is a job.
                If you guys find a Democrat that can expand the economy as good or better than Trump has then said Democrat can spend his afternoon doing skateboard tricks with my blessing. It's all about results. If you work hard but you're a @#$&up, you'll get jazz. If you work ten seconds but make the economy walk on water, I'll applaud.
                A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post

                  If you guys find a Democrat that can expand the economy as good or better than Trump has then said Democrat can spend his afternoon doing skateboard tricks with my blessing. It's all about results. If you work hard but you're a @#$&up, you'll get jazz. If you work ten seconds but make the economy walk on water, I'll applaud.
                  Racist post again I see Since I am black must be a dem interesting

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by craven View Post

                    Racist post again I see Since I am black must be a dem interesting
                    Huh ???
                    Where do you see, get this conclusion ?
                    Or have you morphed into a clone of "Tactikill J" ?
                    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by craven View Post

                      Racist post again I see Since I am black must be a dem interesting
                      You're black?! I didn't get the memo.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by craven View Post

                        nope just the right having a double standard. Don't got no time for golf Don't waste money on vacation I seem to recall those being big issues by some on the right Now Trump is on Track to rack up more money on vacations than Obama and has spent more time golfing.

                        Plus Trump does not go to work like he suppose to. Granted the job can be done from home but there a lot of people who have to go into the office even though they can be just as effective from home because it is a job.
                        Maybe for some of the "Right", but for this one my objections to Obama were on ideology and agenda. His past association with Bill Ayers, which is how Barry met Michelle, is one huge mark against him in my book;
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
                        Then there was the ideology and agenda of "fundamental change" to the USA as presented in his first two books. Add to that his lying about association with the "reverend" Wright, whom Obama praises in his first book and titles his second book with the title of a "sermon" by Wright which Obama praised in his first book. So for me being a socialist/communist, a liar and an enemy of the USA was what mattered.

                        As for if Trump "does go to work" or not, rather interesting that the voices that accuse him of being a danger to USA would want him to spend more time at such ...
                        The Oval Office is in the White House so yeah, when he's there he could be "working from home", DUH!
                        Plus with greater electronic devices like cell phones and twitter, and a staff often right next to him, POTUS is a 24/7 job and Trump would seem to be "on it" and connected.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                          You consistently pass "the duck test"; look like, quack like, waddle like; only we can substitute Liberal/Democrat to match your partisan positions and ideological record.

                          I don't recall you objecting one tenth as much when your "guy" and hero was in the White House spending eight years on his seditious and traitorous agenda - Make America Grovel Again, with help from his "former" domestic terrorist friends, etc.


                          Then it appears you voted for and support his intended replacement; hag Hillary. Before you 'doth protest too much' a reminder that there was only going to be one or the other winning that 2016 election and if you denigrate and slam the one, you by default support the other ...

                          ... or do you have some "genius" third option that none of us knew of and had no way to win?
                          I didn't vote for Obama, so once again you are misrepresenting facts in your postings. And I reluctantly voted for Clinton because Trump is disgusting and wrong for the nation which he constantly proves by his words and actions.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Massena View Post

                            I didn't vote for Obama, ...
                            I didn't say you did, I did say you voted for Clinton which you admit to here. Consider upgrading your reading and comprehension skills.

                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            ... so once again you are misrepresenting facts in your postings.
                            That would appear to be you in not understanding my post and misrepresenting what I said. Add to this your conspiracy theories about Trump.

                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            And I reluctantly voted for Clinton because Trump is disgusting and wrong for the nation which he constantly proves by his words and actions.
                            His words and actions against this country have yet to reach the levels of treason and sedition by Obama and Clinton:

                            I)EXCERPTS;
                            ...
                            President Obama found his private moment of political candor caught by a live microphone on Monday as he told President Dmitri A. Medvedev of Russia that he would have “more flexibility” to negotiate on the delicate issue of missile defense after the November election, which Mr. Obama apparently feels confident he will win.

                            Mr. Obama’s Republican adversaries seized on the comment, which followed a meeting between Mr. Obama and Mr. Medvedev in Seoul, South Korea, where both had struggled to find common ground amid strong objections in Russia to the American plans for a missile defense system based in Europe.
                            ...
                            “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” Mr. Obama could be heard saying to Mr. Medvedev, according a reporter from ABC News, who was traveling with the president.

                            “Yeah, I understand,” the departing Russian president said. “I understand your message about space. Space for you ... .”

                            Mr. Obama then elaborated in a portion of the exchange picked up by the cameras: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”

                            “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” Mr. Medvedev said, referring to Prime Minister Vladimir V. Putin, who just won an election to succeed Mr. Medvedev.
                            ...
                            https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/27/u...exibility.html

                            If anyone is looking for a POTUS "colluding" with and making questionable deals with, currying the favor of Putin/Russia, or acting like Putin's puppet, we have clear and specific evidence in the above. Toss in that Uranium One deal and there's icing on the cake.

                            II) Hillary Clinton and the Obama administration find themselves at the center of an explosive scandal involving the transfer of 20 percent of all U.S. uranium to Russia via the sale of the Uranium One company, just as nine foreign investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation to help grease the wheels.


                            Here are the seven facts about the Uranium One deal you need to know:
                            1. Peter Schweizer Broke the Uranium One Scandal
                            ....
                            2. The New York Times Confirmed the Scandal in 2015
                            ...
                            3.
                            The FBI Uncovered Evidence that Russian Money Was Funneled to the Clinton Foundation
                            ...
                            4. Congress Is Now Investigating
                            ...
                            5. Bill Clinton Was Paid $500,000 for a Speech in Moscow
                            ...
                            6. The Clinton Foundation Took Big Bucks from Uranium Investors
                            ...
                            7. Senate Republicans
                            Want an FBI Gag Order Lifted

                            https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...n-should-know/

                            III) Obama aided and abetted a known and major enemy of the USA and major supporter of Terrorism, Iran, by releasing their funds we had frozen to them, allowing them to better support Islamic Jihad/Terrorism.

                            Iran May Have Received as Much as $33.6 Billion in Cash, Gold Payments From U.S.
                            New questions emerge on several billions paid out to Iran by Obama admin

                            https://freebeacon.com/national-secu...-payments-u-s/

                            To date, no evidence of any ballots changed or vote tallies altered so how Russia materially "meddled in the 2016 elections" remains in the realm of fantasy.
                            Meanwhile we have clear evidence of Obama and H. Clinton have operated against this nation's best interests and also in favor of the Russians and you and a few others here are giving them a pass on this. Which would suggests some here have allegiance elsewhere than the best interest of USA.
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                              Maybe for some of the "Right", but for this one my objections to Obama were on ideology and agenda. His past association with Bill Ayers, which is how Barry met Michelle, is one huge mark against him in my book;
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
                              Then there was the ideology and agenda of "fundamental change" to the USA as presented in his first two books. Add to that his lying about association with the "reverend" Wright, whom Obama praises in his first book and titles his second book with the title of a "sermon" by Wright which Obama praised in his first book. So for me being a socialist/communist, a liar and an enemy of the USA was what mattered.

                              As for if Trump "does go to work" or not, rather interesting that the voices that accuse him of being a danger to USA would want him to spend more time at such ...
                              The Oval Office is in the White House so yeah, when he's there he could be "working from home", DUH!
                              Plus with greater electronic devices like cell phones and twitter, and a staff often right next to him, POTUS is a 24/7 job and Trump would seem to be "on it" and connected.
                              Well if he actually worked he might make some informed choices. ie did a bit of reading gaining some actual knowledge. Don't have a problem with arguing over fact. but not ones pulled out of thing air.

                              btw how is Trump not a liar and not anti American. He doing what Obama did but on steroids.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                                Huh ???
                                Where do you see, get this conclusion ?
                                Or have you morphed into a clone of "Tactikill J" ?
                                Strawman + ad hom + race card = No counterpoint to muster.

                                That was a fascinating leap in logic he made though. I almost feel we need some Olympic score cards to judge that swan dive.
                                A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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