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  • #16
    Originally posted by Emtos View Post


    It's exactly the other way around. Today there is only 7 states which matter. For the others it's already known if htey will vote Rep or Dem so they simply doesn't matter for the candidates.

    https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/...gn-events-2016

    The Right fears the popular vote. 1st Bush and Trump were elected by a minority vote. With the change in demographics and culture, the Right is doomed to the decline.
    This is not correct :
    1 US are a federal state and in a federal state the president can not be elected by popular vote, but is (in the US )elected indirectly by the voters of the different states : without the electoral college US would cease to be a federation of states ,but would become a centralised state where the states woulkd only be provinces .
    2 The Right is not doomed : the forecast of D. Carson (D Rep ) of a Muslim vice president in 2030 and a Muslim president in 2040 will not occur .
    In Europe, the future is on the Right : the Left is doomed in Europe :there will be no centralised multicultural European state .
    It is the same for the USA.
    Besides , that old Bush and Trump had only a minority of PV is tha meaningless, as W.Wilson (2 times ) ,Truman,JFK, Clinton, were also minority presidents .
    And, last point : without the EC,US will collaps ,because ,without EC, you will have as many as 50 Reublican parties , 50 Democratic parties and countless other parties,and a potus elected by 10 % of the voters .

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    • #17
      Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
      Good, it's the only way republicans can win. They surely can't win by American vote totals. So they cheat.
      1 vote should equal 1 vote.
      There is NO cheating : the Constitution is saying very clearly that the potus is indirectly elected by the voters of the states, NOT directly by the voters of the USA .
      The Democrats never complained when they won with this system ( Obama was elected with such a system ), thus they have now no right to whine and complain .

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ljadw View Post

        There is NO cheating : the Constitution is saying very clearly that the potus is indirectly elected by the voters of the states, NOT directly by the voters of the USA .
        The Democrats never complained when they won with this system ( Obama was elected with such a system ), thus they have now no right to whine and complain .
        Democrats are against the electoral college system win or lose. Want me to give you examples from the past?
        You just can't make stuff up and expect educated people to believe it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

          Your dog needs new glasses. CA Gov is running a surplus.

          Maybe the glasses need a new dog, a smarter breed.
          California dreaming again?

          https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...115-story.html

          The supposed surplus is an emergency fund not available to address the 200 billion that Brown added to California's debt.

          You need to get a smarter accountant and a smarter source for news.


          We hunt the hunters

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ljadw View Post

            This is not correct :
            1 US are a federal state and in a federal state the president can not be elected by popular vote, but is (in the US )elected indirectly by the voters of the different states : without the electoral college US would cease to be a federation of states ,but would become a centralised state where the states woulkd only be provinces .
            2 The Right is not doomed : the forecast of D. Carson (D Rep ) of a Muslim vice president in 2030 and a Muslim president in 2040 will not occur .
            In Europe, the future is on the Right : the Left is doomed in Europe :there will be no centralised multicultural European state .
            It is the same for the USA.
            Besides , that old Bush and Trump had only a minority of PV is tha meaningless, as W.Wilson (2 times ) ,Truman,JFK, Clinton, were also minority presidents .
            And, last point : without the EC,US will collaps ,because ,without EC, you will have as many as 50 Reublican parties , 50 Democratic parties and countless other parties,and a potus elected by 10 % of the voters .
            1. Yes, it can. Russia is also a federal state with the president elected by a popular vote. The current system in US doesn't makes any sense since a very large number of votes is ignored.

            2. Yes, it's. Angry racist white men will decrease in number over the years. On the other side the number of hispanics and blacks will increase. In Europe the Left is also winning. We're seeing it in France and Belgium, we're seeing it in other European states. EU is slowly becoming more centralised and multicultural.

            The democrat presidents you mentioned get the greatest number of votes. A second turn will be more logical but still they get more than any opponent.

            50 parties is not a problem. 2 parties which destroy any possible alternative and concurrence, this is a problem. It de-facto leads US to a single party system like in China or USSR.
            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Emtos View Post

              1. Yes, it can. Russia is also a federal state with the president elected by a popular vote. The current system in US doesn't makes any sense since a very large number of votes is ignored.

              2. Yes, it's. Angry racist white men will decrease in number over the years. On the other side the number of hispanics and blacks will increase. In Europe the Left is also winning. We're seeing it in France and Belgium, we're seeing it in other European states. EU is slowly becoming more centralised and multicultural.

              The democrat presidents you mentioned get the greatest number of votes. A second turn will be more logical but still they get more than any opponent.

              50 parties is not a problem. 2 parties which destroy any possible alternative and concurrence, this is a problem. It de-facto leads US to a single party system like in China or USSR.
              Thatís a lot of hatred you have for White people since youíre hoping that weí will become a minority in our own countries one day.
              The Left wonít win your plans always fail.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post
                Democrats are against the electoral college system win or lose. Want me to give you examples from the past?
                You just can't make stuff up and expect educated people to believe it.
                Did Clinton object when he won ? Did Obama object when he won ?
                The Democrats dominated Congress during several decennia, they never tried tro abolish the EC . Band of hypocrites .

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post

                  Thatís a lot of hatred you have for White people since youíre hoping that weí will become a minority in our own countries one day.
                  The Left wonít win your plans always fail.
                  Hatred is in your imagination. By 2050 the white non-hispanic will become a minority in USA. It's a fact. Whites imported blacks, seized lands from the locals and from Mexico, now it's just the payback time
                  The Left already won on plenty of issues. 40 hours working week, paid leave, progressive taxation and so on. Gulags and lead pills are of course more funny but a slow victory is fine too.
                  There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                    Hatred is in your imagination. By 2050 the white non-hispanic will become a minority in USA. It's a fact. Whites imported blacks, seized lands from the locals and from Mexico, now it's just the payback time
                    The Left already won on plenty of issues. 40 hours working week, paid leave, progressive taxation and so on. Gulags and lead pills are of course more funny but a slow victory is fine too.
                    You wouldnít like let alone hope that White people will become a minority in our countries if you didnít hate White people.
                    You identify with being a Russian and a Soviet itís your nature to hate White people self hater.
                    How is the far Left Soviet Union working out now?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post

                      You wouldnít like let alone hope that White people will become a minority in our countries if you didnít hate White people.
                      You identify with being a Russian and a Soviet itís your nature to hate White people self hater.
                      How is the far Left Soviet Union working out now?
                      There is no hatred. I understand that the concept of demographics and science is probably far above the intelelctual capacity of Right-wing fanboys like you, but it doesn't make them false. At one point the whites will be a minority, want you this or not.

                      The Left worked perfectly for Soviet Union. It's when the Gulags were closed and purges stopped, then the things went wrong.
                      There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                        1. Yes, it can. Russia is also a federal state with the president elected by a popular vote. The current system in US doesn't makes any sense since a very large number of votes is ignored.

                        2. Yes, it's. Angry racist white men will decrease in number over the years. On the other side the number of hispanics and blacks will increase. In Europe the Left is also winning. We're seeing it in France and Belgium, we're seeing it in other European states. EU is slowly becoming more centralised and multicultural.

                        The democrat presidents you mentioned get the greatest number of votes. A second turn will be more logical but still they get more than any opponent.

                        50 parties is not a problem. 2 parties which destroy any possible alternative and concurrence, this is a problem. It de-facto leads US to a single party system like in China or USSR.
                        A centralised multicultural state will not last, it is doomed .
                        The French socialists were crushed at the last election which was won by a French Hillary Clinton .
                        In Belgium the Left is disappearing,it is the same in Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, Britain ,...
                        Socialist parties are something of the past : they are doomed .
                        At the Belgian legislative elections of 1954 socialists and communists had together 40.9 % , 60 years later ,in 2014 , they had only 24,2 % .
                        In Germany, the SPD has in the polls less votes than the Greens.
                        A second turn is impossible in the USA.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                          Hatred is in your imagination. By 2050 the white non-hispanic will become a minority in USA. It's a fact. Whites imported blacks, seized lands from the locals and from Mexico, now it's just the payback time
                          The Left already won on plenty of issues. 40 hours working week, paid leave, progressive taxation and so on. Gulags and lead pills are of course more funny but a slow victory is fine too.
                          It is not a fact .It is a wet dream .

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Emtos View Post

                            There is no hatred. I understand that the concept of demographics and science is probably far above the intelelctual capacity of Right-wing fanboys like you, but it doesn't make them false. At one point the whites will be a minority, want you this or not.

                            The Left worked perfectly for Soviet Union. It's when the Gulags were closed and purges stopped, then the things went wrong.
                            You donít know yourself very well there self hating junior.
                            The Soviets failed just like the modern far Left will again in Europe and the US a lot can and will happen now.
                            Europeans are starting to realize the world the Left wants for us and are starting to fight back it begun with Brexit and Trump thereís no going back now.
                            Birthrates can increase again not giving the Left an excuse to try and replace us with 3rd worlders for your own self hating selfish moronic reasons.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                              A centralised multicultural state will not last, it is doomed .
                              The French socialists were crushed at the last election which was won by a French Hillary Clinton .
                              In Belgium the Left is disappearing,it is the same in Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, Britain ,...
                              Socialist parties are something of the past : they are doomed .
                              At the Belgian legislative elections of 1954 socialists and communists had together 40.9 % , 60 years later ,in 2014 , they had only 24,2 % .
                              In Germany, the SPD has in the polls less votes than the Greens.
                              A second turn is impossible in the USA.
                              There is no problems for a centralised multicultural state. Those existed and will exist.
                              On the last French election Malenchon got 19,6% of votes vs 24% for Macron. And this without all the propaganda machine of big capital behind him.
                              In Wallonia the PVDA/PTB+PS+Ecolo won 51% of votes. In Flanders they have two times less but Flanders was always very natonalist and Right-wing. The decline of "socialist" parties isn't important. There well be populist Left, green Left, communist Left, new socialist Left and so on.
                              Today the second turn is impossible. But laws and constitutions change.
                              There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post

                                You donít know yourself very well there self hating junior.
                                The Soviets failed just like the modern far Left will again in Europe and the US a lot can and will happen now.
                                Europeans are starting to realize the world the Left wants for us and are starting to fight back it begun with Brexit and Trump thereís no going back now.
                                Birthrates can increase again not giving the Left an excuse to try and replace us with 3rd worlders for your own self hating selfish moronic reasons.
                                The didn't failed. They succeeded. From a very poor country to superpower in a couple of decades. The Left succeded in Europe and is slowly succeding in USA. Europeans start to push the Right back. British put themselves in a giant hole with the Brexit and the one who can push them out of it is Corbyn. Birthrates will not increase, there is any reason for this to happen. Your notion of "3rd worlders" shows the elitist, racist and arrogant nature of the Right. But don't worry. Those "3rd worlders" will show to you that you belong to the past.
                                There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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