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    It is easy to denigrate Trump. In many ways, he is his own worst enemy. However, you don't become the USA president by being stupid.

    Trump specifically succeeded by drawing support from one of the single greatest minorities - white, Christian, heterosexual males.

    White, Christian, heterosexual males make a large percentage of the voting population, and the Democrats have done nothing to entice these people to their POV. I would state they have gone out of their way to alienate this body of voters.

    The Daily Show with Trevor Noah is a case in point. While he correctly implies certain individuals as racist, sexist etc etc, he seems to imply all white, straight, Christian males are failures, simply by being white, straight, Christian men.

    While it is true that previous USA societies have allowed a certain section to reach the top tier of society, it doesn't mean the rest of white, Christian, heterosexual males are anyway affiliated with those top end tossers.

    Until the Democrats realize close to half the US population is not evil, they will not win.
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    Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
    Until the Democrats realize close to half the US population is not evil, they will not win.
    I think that folks operate under different definitions of 'evil'; one of them being: "anyone who disagrees with us."
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    • #3
      Interesting to use a comedian for a source. But, that aside, Trump also does very well among White women who are married. That is women who have little or no dependence on the government for subsistence.

      Also, what does this say about Democrat support?

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      • #4
        This is stupid:

        https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/18/polit...eet/index.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
          Until the Democrats realize close to half the US population is not evil, they will not win.
          They just did in the mid-terms. The Republican loss in the House is the greatest since Watergate. And the Republicans also lost important governors' races. They didn't get the Senate, but they really weren't expected to.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
            It is easy to denigrate Trump. In many ways, he is his own worst enemy. However, you don't become the USA president by being stupid.

            Trump specifically succeeded by drawing support from one of the single greatest minorities - white, Christian, heterosexual males.

            White, Christian, heterosexual males make a large percentage of the voting population, and the Democrats have done nothing to entice these people to their POV. I would state they have gone out of their way to alienate this body of voters.

            The Daily Show with Trevor Noah is a case in point. While he correctly implies certain individuals as racist, sexist etc etc, he seems to imply all white, straight, Christian males are failures, simply by being white, straight, Christian men.

            While it is true that previous USA societies have allowed a certain section to reach the top tier of society, it doesn't mean the rest of white, Christian, heterosexual males are anyway affiliated with those top end tossers.

            Until the Democrats realize close to half the US population is not evil, they will not win.
            Exactly. If I remember your location on the old website format correctly, you are not from the US, so I am surprised you caught this nuance of US culture. Obama and the Democrats made a strategic decision to appeal to "minorities" such as hispanics, blacks, and women. No Asians or white, heterosexual men. Moreover, they are strongly socialist and look down on small business entrepreneurs. They created a new "minority" as you say, the white, heterosexual male, especially if they are middle class workers.

            Trump is the anti-Obama in the sense that he speaks for this new "minority." However, he is not divisive in the demographic sense. He is divisive in the sense that he held zero political office before being elected President, and that grinds the gears of political junkies. Trump champions the working class, but he never mentions demographics unless its to point out the lowet black unemployment in US history. He talks like a New Yorker. He IS a New Yorker, and that means he feels at home in casual confrontation that other people marvel at. Some people can. not. stand that attitude. But he gets things done, and career politicans have a hard time doing that.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Interesting to use a comedian for a source. But, that aside, Trump also does very well among White women who are married. That is women who have little or
              no dependence on the government for subsistence.
              Also, what does this say about Democrat support?
              There you go again. Ignoring the fact that many of the poorest states with the most welfare are Red States.

              The 10 states receiving the most in federal aid as a percentage of their general revenue, in order, were:
              1. Mississippi, 42.9% federal aid as percentage of general revenue
              2. Louisiana, 41.9%
              3. Tennessee, 39.5%
              4. South Dakota, 39.0%
              5. Missouri, 38.2%
              6. Montana, 37.4%
              7. Georgia, 37.3%
              8. New Mexico, 36.6%
              9. Alabama, 36.1%
              10. Maine, 35.3%
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nick the Noodle View Post
                It is easy to denigrate Trump. In many ways, he is his own worst enemy. However, you don't become the USA president by being stupid.

                Trump specifically succeeded by drawing support from one of the single greatest minorities - white, Christian, heterosexual males.

                White, Christian, heterosexual males make a large percentage of the voting population, and the Democrats have done nothing to entice these people to their POV. I would state they have gone out of their way to alienate this body of voters.

                The Daily Show with Trevor Noah is a case in point. While he correctly implies certain individuals as racist, sexist etc etc, he seems to imply all white, straight, Christian males are failures, simply by being white, straight, Christian men.

                While it is true that previous USA societies have allowed a certain section to reach the top tier of society, it doesn't mean the rest of white, Christian, heterosexual males are anyway affiliated with those top end tossers.

                Until the Democrats realize close to half the US population is not evil, they will not win.
                well said.
                I can't speak for others, but your post accurately describes the reasoning behind my decision to stop voting for democrats back in the 1990s.
                I decided that so long as they made it clear that they felt that those who were white and middle class were the enemy, I would not support them.
                in my opinion, things have only gotten worse since then.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post

                  Republicans might suck, but at least they don't consider me the enemy.
                  But Trump has stated repeatedly that the Press is the 'enemy of the people' which is a common refrain from dictators, not an American president.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                    Interesting to use a comedian for a source. But, that aside, Trump also does very well among White women who are married. That is women who have little or no dependence on the government for subsistence.

                    Also, what does this say about Democrat support?
                    Democratic support has always come primarily from the lower class, the minorities, the poor and the welfare and other subsidy receivers who obviously depend on the Dems to keep the money coming.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

                      There you go again. Ignoring the fact that many of the poorest states with the most welfare are Red States.

                      The 10 states receiving the most in federal aid as a percentage of their general revenue, in order, were:
                      1. Mississippi, 42.9% federal aid as percentage of general revenue
                      2. Louisiana, 41.9%
                      3. Tennessee, 39.5%
                      4. South Dakota, 39.0%
                      5. Missouri, 38.2%
                      6. Montana, 37.4%
                      7. Georgia, 37.3%
                      8. New Mexico, 36.6%
                      9. Alabama, 36.1%
                      10. Maine, 35.3%
                      Hardly a viable argument. These states get more in federal funds than they put in almost entirely because they are low population states. Yes, some like Louisiana and Missouri-- which are mostly Democrat-- have larger populations, but overall, it is the Democrat part of these states sucking up most of the social-welfare money that comes into them.

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                      • #12
                        Current Gov of MO is from the GOP. Same with LA. a dense mf.

                        Once again you only offer opinion which you prove daily that it's just like every one having a ___________
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                          Current Gov of MO is from the GOP. Same with LA. a dense mf.

                          Once again you only offer opinion which you prove daily that it's just like every one having a ___________
                          So? What does that have to do with federal spending, much of which the state has little or no say in.

                          For example, take food stamps...

                          http://www.governing.com/gov-data/fo...otals-map.html

                          For 2013 (their latest data) those states had:

                          Mississippi: 20%
                          Louisiana: 17.2%
                          Tennessee: 17.2%
                          S. Dakota: 12.5%
                          Missouri: 13.7%
                          Montana: 10.7%
                          Georgia: 16.2%
                          New Mexico: 16.7%
                          Alabama: 15.5%
                          Maine: 18%

                          So, until you know what those federal dollars are doing in some state the aggregate of what they get to what they contribute is nothing but a red herring argument. For example, Montana clearly has a lower rate of social-welfare recipients, so that federal money could be going to interstate highways or other infrastructure that the federal government funds. Given the state's low population, that is in no way indicative that those funds are squandered on social-welfare but rather on infrastructure that benefits not just that state but others as well.

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                          • #14
                            All Red States! Except Maine.

                            https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/...amps/21877399/

                            8 of 11

                            https://newpittsburghcourieronline.c...le-on-welfare/

                            Try this one for excuses

                            https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-rate?slide=11
                            Last edited by Half Pint John; 20 Nov 18, 13:29.
                            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                            • #15
                              So? What does that have to do with federal spending, much of which the state has little or no say in.
                              So what, you brought this whopper of a lie into the debate. Are you going to blame Trump for telling an untruth?
                              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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