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    The president has criticized Admiral William McRaven for not getting bin Laden sooner and has wrongly criticized the retired admiral of being a Clinton supporter. This personal attack is way out of bounds as well as being completely inaccurate. And it is from a draft dodger at that.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...n-a-lot-sooner

    https://thinkprogress.org/donald-tru...-aa8e89891129/

    McRaven's comment that Trump's treatment and attacks on the news media is a threat to the Constitution is absolutely correct. The bottom line is that Trump is a light-weight who cannot stand up to any scrutiny about his personal conduct and bullying statements against anyone who disagrees with him.

    And McRaven is exactly right when he wrote the following:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...media-tweet-g/

    Trump has truly disgraced himself this time and he owes Admiral McRaven and the entire armed forces an apology-which he does not have to requisite character to do.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/18/polit...ven/index.html

    Admiral Craven's response to Trump's personal attack:
    "I did not back Hillary Clinton or anyone else. I am a fan of President Obama and President George W. Bush, both of whom I worked for. I admire all presidents, regardless of their political party, who uphold the dignity of the office and who use that office to bring the nation together in challenging times. I stand by my comment that the President's attack on the media is the greatest threat to our democracy in my lifetime. When you undermine the people's right to a free press and freedom of speech and expression, then you threaten the Constitution and all for which it stands."
    Last edited by Massena; 18 Nov 18, 15:04.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    Trump is attacking the wrong target. Obama stalled the raid for months, then made up a pack of lies about the operation to cover his incompetence and make it look like he was the guy who should get credit.

    https://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymou...sama-bin-laden

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...bin-laden-raid

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...story-fly.html

    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...sama_raid.html

    https://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/o...lerie-jarrett/

    If there was incompetence in the execution of the Obama raid, it started at the top in the White House.

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    • #3
      McRaven remained silent when the Democrats attacked conservative media, when Hillary and Michelle declared that they were the boss of the American children.
      Thus McRaven should do only one thing : remain silent and hide himself .
      A soldier who defends someone as Brennan and someone as Obama who helped the enemies of his country is disgracing himself.

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      • #4
        Bill Plante (from CBS !!) : the Obama Administration is undercutting the First Amendment .
        February 25 2013 .

        And McRaven is a fan of Obama .!!

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        • #5
          It is very sad that a former USMC officer, by hatred of the potus, is using ,and thus supporting, a website ( Think Progress ) that is funded by an enemy of his country : George Soros who gave Think Progress more than $ 3 million .
          During WWII ,no GOP politician used Radio Tokyo to attack FD Roosevelt .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            Trump is attacking the wrong target. Obama stalled the raid for months, then made up a pack of lies about the operation to cover his incompetence and make it look like he was the guy who should get credit.

            https://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymou...sama-bin-laden

            https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...bin-laden-raid

            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...story-fly.html

            https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...sama_raid.html

            https://dailycaller.com/2012/07/29/o...lerie-jarrett/

            If there was incompetence in the execution of the Obama raid, it started at the top in the White House.
            Trump ought to keep his mouth shut when he has no idea what he is talking about. And that is the majority of the time.
            We are not now that strength which in old days
            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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            • #7
              Carlotta Gall in the New York Times Magazine of 19 March 2014. Gall, who spent 12 years as the Times correspondent in Afghanistan, wrote that she’d been told by a ‘Pakistani official’ that Pasha had known before the raid that bin Laden was in Abbottabad



              The rest of the report from the London review of PODCAST, no less, gives only Pakistani sources and discredit US Intell. Sounds a lot like Trump.

              is bin Laden dead? When and how did he die?

              POST#2 is just a weak attempt at deflection, about all TAG has now days other than whatabout's
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                Carlotta Gall in the New York Times Magazine of 19 March 2014. Gall, who spent 12 years as the Times correspondent in Afghanistan, wrote that she’d been told by a ‘Pakistani official’ that Pasha had known before the raid that bin Laden was in Abbottabad

                The rest of the report from the London review of PODCAST, no less, gives only Pakistani sources and discredit US Intell. Sounds a lot like Trump.

                is bin Laden dead? When and how did he die?

                POST#2 is just a weak attempt at deflection, about all TAG has now days other than whatabout's
                No, my post points out that Trump is correct to criticize the raid. It is just he is attacking the wrong party as the target. Obama is the person that fouled that raid up with his indecision and foot dragging. The Admiral did his job as best he could, hobbled by an incompetent CiC.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                  No, my post points out that Trump is correct to criticize the raid. It is just he is attacking the wrong party as the target. Obama is the person that fouled that raid up with his indecision and foot dragging. The Admiral did his job as best he could, hobbled by an incompetent CiC.
                  He has no expertise to criticize the raid, especially in the planning and execution of it.
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                    No, my post points out that Trump is correct to criticize the raid. It is just he is attacking the wrong party as the target. Obama is the person that fouled that raid up with his indecision and foot dragging. The Admiral did his job as best he could, hobbled by an incompetent CiC.
                    Maybe, but it remains deflection on both Trump and yourself. Trump try's to blame any and every thing on others, never responsible for anything , not even the endless blame game. What? again, what has Trump done to show he is a competent CIC. SSit he can't even spell CiC.
                    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • #11
                      He has no expertise

                      You could have left it at that.
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                        No, my post points out that Trump is correct to criticize the raid. It is just he is attacking the wrong party as the target. Obama is the person that fouled that raid up with his indecision and foot dragging. The Admiral did his job as best he could, hobbled by an incompetent CiC.
                        NO, NO and NO. It's history that can't be change even though Trump would like to take credit for it. Do you even remember what started the GWOT? Get bin Laden. He was had, many years ago but we are still plowing up unfertiale ground looking for terrorist. Could it be we are making more than we have killed?
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          The armed forces of the United States is apolitical:

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp
                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                            It is very sad that a former USMC officer, by hatred of the potus, is using ,and thus supporting, a website ( Think Progress ) that is funded by an enemy of his country : George Soros who gave Think Progress more than $ 3 million .
                            During WWII ,no GOP politician used Radio Tokyo to attack FD Roosevelt .
                            Conflating WWII and partisan politics --- A full-blown case of TDSR.

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                            • #15
                              Another response to Trump's vulgar stupidity:


                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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