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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Qualification being your constant claim it's only from the Right and you on the Left are excluded.
    That's a lie. I never once said it's only on the right. My argument has always been that it's more prominent on the right. Two entirely different things.

    Anyway what does your race baiting, yet again, have to do with this topic?

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    Not surprising at all to me. How many times have I said that racism is at a rampant high right now?
    Qualification being your constant claim it's only from the Right and you on the Left are excluded.

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Of course these weren't racist Democrats ...

    Black Republican Threatened With Gun While Volunteering At Polls
    https://www.teaparty.org/black-repub...-polls-330064/
    Not surprising at all to me. How many times have I said that racism is at a rampant high right now?

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    I think you missed that part back when he signed the Budget from Congress (whom make such out), under duress, because not doing so would have caused Federal shutdown and larger economic disruption. He admonished Congress to not do it again and show more fiscal responsibility on the next one.
    I'm willing to wait and see ...
    So far I'm not expecting to see him double the National Debt like we saw with prior POTUS Barry the community organizer.

    And I am the one whom often presents this for consideration

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    So, the tax cuts and the increased military spending did not play any role in that deficit increase which is projected to reach 1 trillion by the end of the year. Do you care to explain to us what changed since the previous year when the deficit was 17% lower?



    Also, where did you present the issue of debt for consideration? When was the last time that you participated in a Tea Party protest about that issue? Do you really think that I can take you seriously when you try to compare your activism as a Tea Party "Patriot" when Obama was president to your "activism" as an AGC poster here when Trump is president?

    Give me a break!



    This is the type of hypocrisy I was talking about in my #8 post.
    Last edited by pamak; 26 Oct 18, 16:32.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post
    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    5) "misogny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.

    I assume the above quote shows your linguistic superiority.
    Shows a typo, corrected: "misogyny" (the term you used).

    You just revealed to us that beside typos, you have problems with English grammar and syntax.

    Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women.

    The above sentence does not show that you are in a position to judge other people's language skills

    Or Conservative non-whites.

    This is not even a complete sentence. It is a sentence fragment! Elementary school students struggle with sentence fragments!

    If you want help, visit the following site:

    https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_w...fragments.html


    Fragments are incomplete sentences. Usually, fragments are pieces of sentences that have become disconnected from the main clause. One of the easiest ways to correct them is to remove the period between the fragment and the main clause. Other kinds of punctuation may be needed for the newly combined sentence.

    Below are some examples with the fragments shown
    in red.

    Fragment: Purdue offers many majors in engineering. Such as electrical, chemical, and industrial engineering.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Apparently your definition of logic is different from others.
    Considering the one-sided slant of your "attacks" is the same as the Left, other than being dishonest, how should I and others consider what you are muddling about.
    While the Left might not target a single businessman, the Kock's are brothers, a pair ...
    ... and the Lefties I know far outpace the Right and Conservatives in finding boogieman and conspiracy theories everywhere;
    ... the Russians stole OUR election ...
    ... ACC/AGW is real and we have to do something now ...
    ... Free enterprise and profits are evil ...
    ... etc. ...
    If you actually read my posts, you can easily see that I was talking about the propensity of the right to create boogiemen.

    You mentioned my #8 post but you missed that I was addressing a particular quote

    Originally posted by pamak

    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    If Soros was funding the tea party all of a sudden he would be the evil wizard behind the curtain that is destroying America in the minds of liberals.

    Don't forget there was an actual conspiracy within the intelligence community (insurance policy) to stop the Orange Hitler.

    Hypocrites


    I do not hear liberals being so obsessed with the rich guys on the right who DID fund the tea party (that was when hypocrites on your side were complaining about the deficits).
    And it is sad that you see as conspiracy the attempt by the intelligence community to defend the US from Russian collaborators.


    You did not understand that the point was to demonstrate that it is easy to find connections between rich conservative guys and movements like the Tea Party (as I did in a very short time and with limited resources) to create a boogieman. Still the left is not so obsessed with particular rich conservative donors. You failed to understand my objective because you did not read carefully what I was addressing. Try harder next time...

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post
    Also, I do not know if you missed or "missed " the last part of my post which explains why I used the word hypocrisy when I talked about the Tea Party activists, but I will repeat it to be sure that you actually understand the points I make and debate these points and not the ones you THINK I make...

    The hypocrisy on deficits is obvious when Tea Party members like you stay silent when deficits under Trump go up at a time when the economy is actually strong enough to reduce the total deficit instead of farther increasing it!

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/econo...cit/index.html

    US deficit rises 17% to the highest level since 2012

    The deficit rose to $779 billion in fiscal year 2018, up 17% from last year, according to final figures released Monday by the Treasury Department. That's the largest number since 2012, when the country was still spending massively to stimulate an economy struggling to recover.



    Where are the Tea Party activists like you today?

    Here is one of your leaders talking about the big debt in 2011

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?300818...ce-debt-debate

    Hypocrites!
    I think you missed that part back when he signed the Budget from Congress (whom make such out), under duress, because not doing so would have caused Federal shutdown and larger economic disruption. He admonished Congress to not do it again and show more fiscal responsibility on the next one.
    I'm willing to wait and see ...
    So far I'm not expecting to see him double the National Debt like we saw with prior POTUS Barry the community organizer.

    And I am the one whom often presents this for consideration
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post
    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    5) "misogny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.

    I assume the above quote shows your linguistic superiority.
    Shows a typo, corrected: "misogyny" (the term you used).

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post
    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    "Kohn" ???

    1) "pro-poverty wages" = huge distortion. We support an employers right to provide wages they can afford and that are market competitive.
    2) "anti-worker laws" = Left's support of compulsory union membership and "affirmative action" which places factors of race-ethnic-gender-etc. over worker skill and competence.
    3) "illegal Israeli occupation" = Left ignores Arab/Muslim 1948 ignoring UN mandate/solution by attacking Israel with intent to destroy that nation and kill/drive out the Jews. Along with repeated peace treaty and ceasefire violations by anti-Israeli forces in the region since then.
    4) "racism" = Left/Democrats whom instituted and supported segregation and repeatedly blocked Civil Rights, still align with the KKK.
    5) "misogny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.

    Considering how Leftists advocate for the theft and greed of socialism, are anti-capitalist, and can seldom have a "demonstration" that doesn't include rioting and looting, just what useful and social constructive purpose does the Left provide???

    You might consider reading "Atlas Shrugged" to get a better gauge on social looters.


    You see?

    You are weak in logic, so you try to show your strength in English language instead...

    The point I make is not if the leftists or the right-wing beliefs are right our wrong. I do not debate here if there is racism or not, or if Israel or Palestinians are wrong or if laws and policies are against workers or not.

    What I am saying is that the leftists are less prone to create boogiemen and conspiracy theories that target a single conservative businessman who funds projects or politicians which/who oppose leftist beliefs. I simply compare the sophistication of the leftist rhetoric to the very simplistic one we see in the lunatic-right where people are more prone to create boogiemen and see Soros behind every wrong they see in tis world
    Apparently your definition of logic is different from others.
    Considering the one-sided slant of your "attacks" is the same as the Left, other than being dishonest, how should I and others consider what you are muddling about.
    While the Left might not target a single businessman, the Kock's are brothers, a pair ...
    ... and the Lefties I know far outpace the Right and Conservatives in finding boogieman and conspiracy theories everywhere;
    ... the Russians stole OUR election ...
    ... ACC/AGW is real and we have to do something now ...
    ... Free enterprise and profits are evil ...
    ... etc. ...

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    5) "misogny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.

    I assume the above quote shows your linguistic superiority.

    Leave a comment:


  • pamak
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    Also, I do not know if you missed or "missed " the last part of my post which explains why I used the word hypocrisy when I talked about the Tea Party activists, but I will repeat it to be sure that you actually understand the points I make and debate these points and not the ones you THINK I make...

    The hypocrisy on deficits is obvious when Tea Party members like you stay silent when deficits under Trump go up at a time when the economy is actually strong enough to reduce the total deficit instead of farther increasing it!

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/econo...cit/index.html

    US deficit rises 17% to the highest level since 2012

    The deficit rose to $779 billion in fiscal year 2018, up 17% from last year, according to final figures released Monday by the Treasury Department. That's the largest number since 2012, when the country was still spending massively to stimulate an economy struggling to recover.



    Where are the Tea Party activists like you today?

    Here is one of your leaders talking about the big debt in 2011

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?300818...ce-debt-debate

    Hypocrites!

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    "Kohn" ???

    1) "pro-poverty wages" = huge distortion. We support an employers right to provide wages they can afford and that are market competitive.
    2) "anti-worker laws" = Left's support of compulsory union membership and "affirmative action" which places factors of race-ethnic-gender-etc. over worker skill and competence.
    3) "illegal Israeli occupation" = Left ignores Arab/Muslim 1948 ignoring UN mandate/solution by attacking Israel with intent to destroy that nation and kill/drive out the Jews. Along with repeated peace treaty and ceasefire violations by anti-Israeli forces in the region since then.
    4) "racism" = Left/Democrats whom instituted and supported segregation and repeatedly blocked Civil Rights, still align with the KKK.
    5) "misogny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.

    Considering how Leftists advocate for the theft and greed of socialism, are anti-capitalist, and can seldom have a "demonstration" that doesn't include rioting and looting, just what useful and social constructive purpose does the Left provide???

    You might consider reading "Atlas Shrugged" to get a better gauge on social looters.


    You see?

    You are weak in logic, so you try to show your strength in English language instead...

    The point I make is not if the leftists or the right-wing beliefs are right our wrong. I do not debate here if there is racism or not, or if Israel or Palestinians are wrong or if laws and policies are against workers or not.

    What I am saying is that the leftists are less prone to create boogiemen and conspiracy theories that target a single conservative businessman who funds projects or politicians which/who oppose leftist beliefs. I simply compare the sophistication of the leftist rhetoric to the very simplistic one we see in the lunatic-right where people are more prone to create boogiemen and see Soros behind every wrong they see in tis world

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    5) "misogny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.
    I used "misandrogynous" which is the feminist movement where they hate and revile men and anything male, and want to force men to act and behave like women.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    Your belief about Soros is not supported by your source. Also, the premise that he is spending more in "dark money" is illogical since "dark money" by definition does not allow comparisons between Soros and Koch. You can characterize Soros's beliefs in whatever negative light you wish. It does not change the fact that a leftist can do the same about Koch's funding for groups that for the left are supporting pro-poverty wages, anti-worker laws, illegal Israeli occupation, racism, misogyny or whatever. The point I make is that leftists are less prone to simplify the real world and see a single businessman as a boogeyman behind every wrong that the left sees in this world.
    "Kohn" ???

    1) "pro-poverty wages" = huge distortion. We support an employers right to provide wages they can afford and that are market competitive.
    2) "anti-worker laws" = Left's support of compulsory union membership and "affirmative action" which places factors of race-ethnic-gender-etc. over worker skill and competence.
    3) "illegal Israeli occupation" = Left ignores Arab/Muslim 1948 ignoring UN mandate/solution by attacking Israel with intent to destroy that nation and kill/drive out the Jews. Along with repeated peace treaty and ceasefire violations by anti-Israeli forces in the region since then.
    4) "racism" = Left/Democrats whom instituted and supported segregation and repeatedly blocked Civil Rights, still align with the KKK.
    5) "misogyny" = Haven't paid much attention have you to the Left's attacks upon Conservative women. Or Conservative non-whites.

    Considering how Leftists advocate for the theft and greed of socialism, are anti-capitalist, and can seldom have a "demonstration" that doesn't include rioting and looting, just what useful and social constructive purpose does the Left provide???

    You might consider reading "Atlas Shrugged" to get a better gauge on social looters.
    Last edited by G David Bock; 26 Oct 18, 14:55.

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