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  • What’s happened to California?

    Letís hope it doesnít spread!


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v1eNcuGcPW4
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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      Uó-Topia Here We Come,,,,,,,
      Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
      Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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          California is the poster child for the delusion of a post industrial society. Even cottage industries and organic farms are well industries.

          I just finished watching V. A. Shiva Ayyadurai who is running as an Independent against Warren in Massachusetts. He points out something most people don't understand and that is that thousands of people could write the code that is used by Google, Facebook, Twitter etc. who will never get the chance. You don't have to denigrate the value of the internet to understand that the people who invented the internet are hardly known and didn't profit at the same level as the people that took advantage of it. Nothing unusual about that after all how many people remember the guy that invented an efficient way to make steel. The difference is in value added. The immense profits in silicon valley are unique in that they are based more on intellectual property (information about you) and salesmanship (think Madison Avenue) than added value. The tech giants are in away parasitic in the way they exploit infrastructure. None of them really improved the underlying efficiency in major ways as say Rockefeller did with his replacing barrels with pipes.

          Another major industry in California is also intellectual property and that is Hollywood. Hollywood has made fantasy extremely profitable. Like the tech giants it's contribution to the tangible economy is hard to measure. The war over illegal copying illustrates just how little infrastructure is the basis of it's value. You could easily move both of these industries anywhere in the world at minimal relative cost. The work force is tiny compared to the profits. The only comparable situation where location is as irrelevant in the abstract may be the City of London.

          The point I'm trying to make is that when power is vested in those so out of touch with physical reality it should come as no surprise that you get what looks like insane priorities to an outsider. California was gifted an amazing infrastructure by previous generations. The best highway system in the world and a water transfer system that allowed the desert coast to be filled with mega cities. Those same generations created an educational system that was the envy of the world. Not only have none of these been maintained but the public debt makes it almost certain that they will not be.

          Does anyone think that the tech giants that make liberal policies possible in California are more likely to stay in California than the. auto industry was to stay in Detroit. If the dystopian policies of socialism continue the exodus of "dirty" industry and the middle class may be just the beginning of the end.



          We hunt the hunters

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            Homeless people are incredibly difficult to dislodge once they have established themselves in sizable numbers. They do not fear incarceration and are unaffected by fines, so conventional police pressure has little impact. Most areas see climate as a factor in keeping homeless populations controlled, but California is cheated in that regard.

            While the 'bum wars' of my early years of policing have passed, charitable organizations still offer bus fare to the West Coast, where living on the street is much easier.

            If I were a liberal in California, I would view solving the problem as a high priority, because history shows us that administrations that cannot control the public spaces are extremely vulnerable to being replaced.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              The problem in California, and with the Left in general is that those who are in power are not producers of anything. They are simply takers. They're looters. They stay in power by buying votes and giving out what amount to bribes and favors in return. For all intents, it is a variant of the nobility system and royalty.

              So, instead of being say, a Baron, you're a Senator. Instead of being Duke you're a governor. The President is for all intents, the acting King. The only difference is that when you're in these positions, you have to get "the people's" affirmation every few years to stay in power. How many people in Congress have been there for decades? How many in state legislatures?

              As for homeless... The best solution to them squatting in large numbers is this:

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                The second best solution to the homeless is homeless repellant:



                You don't use it on them directly. You use it on their tents, stuff, places where they congregate. It's like insect repellant for derelicts and beggars.

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                  Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                  Homeless people are incredibly difficult to dislodge once they have established themselves in sizable numbers. They do not fear incarceration and are unaffected by fines, so conventional police pressure has little impact. Most areas see climate as a factor in keeping homeless populations controlled, but California is cheated in that regard.

                  While the 'bum wars' of my early years of policing have passed, charitable organizations still offer bus fare to the West Coast, where living on the street is much easier.

                  If I were a liberal in California, I would view solving the problem as a high priority, because history shows us that administrations that cannot control the public spaces are extremely vulnerable to being replaced.
                  I have suggested for years that the best way to handle the homeless problem is my two step plan.
                  1. Move to a very cold climate.
                  2. Buy the homeless there a one way ticket to California.
                  Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                  Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

                    I have suggested for years that the best way to handle the homeless problem is my two step plan.
                    1. Move to a very cold climate.
                    2. Buy the homeless there a one way ticket to California.
                    Or Hawaii. They like Hawaii. Many use their California welfare checks to move there...





                    California or Hawaii? Ah, what's the difference. Both are @$$ F'd.

                    Reporting from Sacramento ó More than $69 million in California welfare money, meant to help the needy pay their rent and clothe their children, has been spent or withdrawn outside the state in recent years, including millions in Las Vegas, hundreds of thousands in Hawaii and thousands on cruise ships sailing from Miami.

                    State-issued aid cards have been used at hotels, shops, restaurants, ATMs and other places in 49 other states, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam, according to data obtained by The Times from the California Department of Social Services. Las Vegas drew $11.8 million of the cash benefits, far more than any other destination. The money was accessed from January 2007 through May 2010.
                    http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct...lfare-20101004

                    Your... well... California's... tax dollars at waste.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

                      I have suggested for years that the best way to handle the homeless problem is my two step plan.
                      1. Move to a very cold climate.
                      2. Buy the homeless there a one way ticket to California.
                      Back when I started in LE we had a file drawer full of bus tickets, one-way. We would find homeless people and put them on the bus. This led to 'bum wars', where agencies fired homeless people back and forth (we had a selection of targets) which drew media attention and ended the practice. But private groups here offer bus tickets and food coupons to homeless, with their choice of three California cities...
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post

                        Back when I started in LE we had a file drawer full of bus tickets, one-way. We would find homeless people and put them on the bus. This led to 'bum wars', where agencies fired homeless people back and forth (we had a selection of targets) which drew media attention and ended the practice. But private groups here offer bus tickets and food coupons to homeless, with their choice of three California cities...
                        Not surprised. You were essentially acting just like Mexico does. You weren't solving the problem - you weren't even trying.
                        what was next? Doing that with your actual criminals, too? Lot easier than feeding and housing them in jails and prisons.

                        What has happened to California? It's collapsing as we watch.
                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          It is much simpler than all that. California (and to a lesser extent Washington and Oregon) became the go to designations for all the hippies in the '60s and '70s, and it just "progressed" from there. California's "gain" has been the rest of the country's, well, gain.

                          Tuebor

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                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                            Not surprised. You were essentially acting just like Mexico does. You weren't solving the problem - you weren't even trying.
                            what was next? Doing that with your actual criminals, too? Lot easier than feeding and housing them in jails and prisons.

                            What has happened to California? It's collapsing as we watch.
                            Well, what we need to do is make a deal with Mexico to put like 2000 Marines on their southern border with hunting licenses. Mexico's border is much shorter than ours. That would quickly solve the problem. Europe and Progressives would whine...

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                              An outbreak of the plague caused by poor sanitation would show everyone what hypocrites the liberal Californian virtue signalers are. They will of course blame conservatives for the problem while building higher walls around their homes.
                              We hunt the hunters

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