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  • #16
    Read the other thread about a cop shooting a man in his home; again all the sympathy goes to the criminal.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Karri View Post
      Read the other thread about a cop shooting a man in his home; again all the sympathy goes to the criminal.

      I do not expect from law enforcement experts to show sympathy about anybody. I expect them to show objectivity. Lack of the latter is dangerous when experts investigate crimes of any kind. Of course, some times this lack of objectivity is a deliberate attempt to go after certain demographics. See Arpaio and his ilk who tries to excuse his behavior.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

        There seems to be at least one new example every day.
        That would actually be proof that racially motivated crime is rare. We're a big country. A handful of cases per day presents a low percentage. This is one of the reasons I chide people for paranoia. They look at the raw numbers and not the per capita stats and gain a false sense of fear.

        In any event no racism has been demonstrated. The posters you mentioned gave no mention of race, merely of an analysis of action. And though I agree the shooter was out of line and should be punished, in order to prove RACISM you must demonstrate that race was the MOTIVE. No such evidence has been offered. "Victim was black" is not evidence. "Poster sided with white guy" is likewise circumstantial and not hard evidence by itself.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post

          That would actually be proof that racially motivated crime is rare. We're a big country. A handful of cases per day presents a low percentage. This is one of the reasons I chide people for paranoia. They look at the raw numbers and not the per capita stats and gain a false sense of fear.

          In any event no racism has been demonstrated. The posters you mentioned gave no mention of race, merely of an analysis of action. And though I agree the shooter was out of line and should be punished, in order to prove RACISM you must demonstrate that race was the MOTIVE. No such evidence has been offered. "Victim was black" is not evidence. "Poster sided with white guy" is likewise circumstantial and not hard evidence by itself.
          Bold mine

          I assume that when an expert chooses to call a black kid with no known-criminal record a "thug," and sides with a white person who HAS a criminal record of previously discharging a gun that you do not find this enough proof of racism. Do you see it as just professional incompetence to "analyze" the facts as we knew them?

          As for the false sense of fear, I will not buy it. Yes, racists are a small minority but when you meet many people in your everyday life, you will have to face such POS on a regular basis. And although it is true that most of the times such meetings will not result in shootings, this does not mean that they will not negatively affect a black person. The effect can come in many different ways from a failed job interview to a failure of a cop to take the allegations of black person seriously. And when regular people do their best to validate the behavior of the white shooter, there is plenty of reason to react to such attempt.
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          • #20
            It is a historical pattern that the left will use issues such as racism to gain power and then misuse that power. The unfortunate truth is that there are issues more important than the mere existence of racists. One of those is equal justice.

            A sophisticated legal system is blind to motive other than mitigating circumstances and premeditation. A white cop shooting an innocent black person is no worse a crime than a black cop shooting an innocent white person. The law must be color blind as must the population as a whole if a pluralist society is to work.

            The Obama administration is an example of how anti racism became unquestioned abuse of power. It starts by the absurd celebration of having the "first black president" without any critical examination of Obama as an individual his history, experience, record on issues or transparency. All that many people needed to know was that he was a progressive and his skin color. The fact that it has been progressives from Woodrow Wilson on that have destroyed personal liberty goes unaddressed. It was progressives that put Japanese citizens in internment camps, under Obama we had James Rosen's emails tapped, the monitoring of the associated press, the IRS turned into a political tool, the FBI putting informants in opposing political campaigns, the intentional illegal unmasking of names by intelligence agencies, warped FISA courts, all unchallenged by a media that believed the ends justify the means.

            The use of racial identity to push a political agenda is the worst kind of cynicism. The means by which racism is eliminated are important. If you push an agenda in which superficial characteristics such as skin color define who people are you are not opposing racism you are pushing the destructive ideology of equality of outcome.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
              It is a historical pattern that the left will use issues such as racism to gain power and then misuse that power. The unfortunate truth is that there are issues more important than the mere existence of racists. One of those is equal justice.

              A sophisticated legal system is blind to motive other than mitigating circumstances and premeditation. A white cop shooting an innocent black person is no worse a crime than a black cop shooting an innocent white person. The law must be color blind as must the population as a whole if a pluralist society is to work.

              The Obama administration is an example of how anti racism became unquestioned abuse of power. It starts by the absurd celebration of having the "first black president" without any critical examination of Obama as an individual his history, experience, record on issues or transparency. All that many people needed to know was that he was a progressive and his skin color. The fact that it has been progressives from Woodrow Wilson on that have destroyed personal liberty goes unaddressed. It was progressives that put Japanese citizens in internment camps, under Obama we had James Rosen's emails tapped, the monitoring of the associated press, the IRS turned into a political tool, the FBI putting informants in opposing political campaigns, the intentional illegal unmasking of names by intelligence agencies, warped FISA courts, all unchallenged by a media that believed the ends justify the means.

              The use of racial identity to push a political agenda is the worst kind of cynicism. The means by which racism is eliminated are important. If you push an agenda in which superficial characteristics such as skin color define who people are you are not opposing racism you are pushing the destructive ideology of equality of outcome.

              Again...

              What does the above post have to do with the issue I raised on this thread? Are you implying that somehow my criticism is unfair?

              I simply point at the"experts" in this forum and their supporters who chose to side with the white person and tried to justify his behavior or brush it off as something that may at most lead to a $250 fine. And at the same time these "experts" called the black teenager a "thug" even though there were clear clues that in THIS case the black teenager was the one who deserved the people's support.
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              • #22
                After watching the video, that guy need to do some serious jail time. How can the jury came to the conclusion he didn't intend to kill the kid? He aimed and shot at kid while he was running for his life, literally! He's lucky he's a bad shot or he'd be dealing with a murder charge.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by At ease View Post

                  It would also be appreciated if posters, other than moderators, would refrain from using red text.

                  It has become an annoying habit of late.
                  I've made the same request to no avail. It's only a couple of members who insist on doing it.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                    Communists have been trying to use racial issues to divide and conquer the US for about 100 years now. It has been decades since they sailed right past boring into utterly mind-numbing & childish Trolldom.

                    I guess they never got over the fact that the USSR, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia all spit apart along racial/tribal lines.... and we never did.

                    Tump's approval ratings have gone up from 23% to 36% among Blacks, that's gotta be driving them even crazier!
                    Thus the retreat to necro-issues.
                    Even Kanye West gets it!

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRY3UHI7cTU

                    But then you have this Don Lemon idiot:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpBoUFjfVR0

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                    • #25
                      What conservatives are saying is we will worry about the racist when leftists start worrying about crime rates amongst minorities, the relationship between crime and the welfare states deconstruction of the family, the authoritarian nature of every leftists government that ever existed, and blatant hypocrisy of liberals who never suffer the consequences of their virtue signalling.

                      If you don't live in a minority community, have never had a manual labor job, never owned a business, never worried about you job being taken by a migrant or a foreign worker, refuse to discuss IQ, have little experience with real socialism, think Marx was an economist and in general take pieces of paper as proof of merit then you probably don't know what you are talking about anyway.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                        What conservatives are saying is we will worry about the racist when leftists start worrying about crime rates amongst minorities, the relationship between crime and the welfare states deconstruction of the family, the authoritarian nature of every leftists government that ever existed, and blatant hypocrisy of liberals who never suffer the consequences of their virtue signalling.

                        If you don't live in a minority community, have never had a manual labor job, never owned a business, never worried about you job being taken by a migrant or a foreign worker, refuse to discuss IQ, have little experience with real socialism, think Marx was an economist and in general take pieces of paper as proof of merit then you probably don't know what you are talking about anyway.


                        What I am saying is that I am worried when supposedly LEO experts show so much bias against the blacks. If a person is called a thug and is treated like a thug by LEOs who are often conducting investigations of crimes involving minorities, then there will be injustice. The rest is just mambo jumbo from your comfort of your living-room. The usual white conservatives never suffer the consequences of racism. They are rarely stopped without reason in the supposedly progressive New York (see stop and frisk tactics) or in AZ (see Arpaio tactics). Also, the issue of crime is not so severe in the "welfare' EU states. But if it is about finding an excuse to justify inaction, anything goes, I guess...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                          It is a historical pattern that the left will use issues such as racism to gain power and then misuse that power. The unfortunate truth is that there are issues more important than the mere existence of racists. One of those is equal justice.
                          Nope, you think the Democratic party uses Racism to gain power? A Democratic party that the majority are white christians? Methinks you're making stuff up off what RW media told you. Propaganda is powerful. It changes votes. If propaganda was useless, it wouldn't be used to this day.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by inevtiab1e View Post

                            Nope, you think the Democratic party uses Racism to gain power? A Democratic party that the majority are white christians? Methinks you're making stuff up off what RW media told you. Propaganda is powerful. It changes votes. If propaganda was useless, it wouldn't be used to this day.
                            Does the Democrat party have internal caucuses by race and gender?

                            The Democrat party is not a White Christian majority.





                            Methinks you're making stuff up off what LW media told you. Propaganda is powerful, that's why it's greatest users in history have always been the Left. They can't get people to accept their message or values by being truthful.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kurt Knispel View Post

                              Even Kanye West gets it!
                              Wow, they call it ChIraq now?
                              Damn... generations of Demonrat political domination does wonders for a City, doesn't it?


                              Originally posted by Kurt Knispel View Post
                              But then you have this Don Lemon idiot:

                              Idiot? Oh, I think you have to be pretty focused to be such an absolute demagogue.
                              Seriously, how thick must your skull be to make a million-dollar career based on ignoring reason and evidence?
                              "Why is the Rum gone?"

                              -Captain Jack

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                              • #30
                                How many are CINO?
                                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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