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  • #16
    The US has a long history of arming terrorists to fight Russia. It's sad how low we're willing to stoop. If this was any other country, arming terrorists on multiple occasions to fight against another country that has not attacked them, would we view them as the good guys? We have to let Russia win this one to save face ethically and morally. What we're doing is disgusting and does not even improve our security.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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    • #17
      Gabbard is only looking for publicity for her reelection .
      Trump is only opposing the use of CW, for domestic political reasons .The US were leading the International Coalition that reconquered Raqqa,thus it is totally false to say that Trump is supporting ISIS .

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      • #18
        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
        The US has a long history of arming terrorists to fight Russia. It's sad how low we're willing to stoop. If this was any other country, arming terrorists on multiple occasions to fight against another country that has not attacked them, would we view them as the good guys? We have to let Russia win this one to save face ethically and morally. What we're doing is disgusting and does not even improve our security.
        What ''we '' (= Trump ) are doing is the correct thing to do ;what Obama did was suicidal: it was Obama who gave the allies of ISIS $ billions, knowing that this money would go to ISIS, it was Obama who helped ISIS to defeat Gadaffi;it was McCain who willingly posed for a picture with ISIS allies,it is Obama who is responsible for the fact that Iran has now SRBM in Iraq .And who must solve all this ? Trump .

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        • #19
          More made up crap from the leftists courtesy of their TDS...
          The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ljadw View Post

            What ''we '' (= Trump ) are doing is the correct thing to do ;what Obama did was suicidal: it was Obama who gave the allies of ISIS $ billions, knowing that this money would go to ISIS, it was Obama who helped ISIS to defeat Gadaffi;it was McCain who willingly posed for a picture with ISIS allies,it is Obama who is responsible for the fact that Iran has now SRBM in Iraq .And who must solve all this ? Trump .
            Who are we arming in Syria?
            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            - Benjamin Franklin

            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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            • #21
              During the Soviet Afghan war the Soviets were trying to defeat Muslim extremist and the US stepped in and stopped them from doing so. History repeats itself. America's agenda has never changed.
              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
              - Benjamin Franklin

              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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              • #22
                Also, get the facts straight, it is Al-Qaida the US is supporting, not ISIS.
                "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                - Benjamin Franklin

                The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                  Also, get the facts straight, it is Al-Qaida the US is supporting, not ISIS.
                  That is semantics,besides in Libya there is no AQ .

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                    Who are we arming in Syria?
                    The Kurds who are fighting against ISIS and Erdogan .

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                      That is semantics,besides in Libya there is no AQ .
                      This thread is about Syria and supporting AQ is not something to be brushed off as semantics.
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                        This thread is about Syria and supporting AQ is not something to be brushed off as semantics.
                        There is no difference between AQ and ISIS .

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                          The Kurds who are fighting against ISIS and Erdogan .
                          They're not all Kurdish and our support for them is starting to shift to those closer aligned with AQ and other extremist.

                          In practice, the U.S. doesn’t appear to mind the Nusra affiliation—regardless of the fact that the group is a terror organization—as long as the job gets done.

                          U.S. arms have been seen in Nusra’s possession for many years now, including highly valued TOW missiles, which were game-changing weapons in the Syrian military theater. When American weapons end up in al-Qaeda hands during the first or second year of a conflict, one assumes simple errors in judgment. When the problem persists after seven years, however, it starts to look like there’s a policy in place to look the other way.

                          It’s also not difficult to grasp why U.S. maps patently ignore evidence of Nusra embedded among U.S.-supported militias. The group, after all, is exempt from ceasefires, viewed as a fair target for military strikes at all times.
                          Today, the Israeli border area with Syria is dotted with Nusra and ISISencampments, which Israel clearly prefers over the Syrian army and its Iranian and Hezbollah allies. The Wall Street Journal even reported last year that Israel was secretly providing funding for salaries, food, fuel, and munitions to militants across its border.
                          Israel is so heavily vested in keeping Syria and its allies away from its borders, it has actively bolstered al-Qaeda and other extremists in Syria’s southern theater. As Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon famously explained in 2016, “In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State.” To justify their interventions in the battle ahead, the U.S. and Israel claim that Iranian and Hezbollah forces are present in the south, yet on the ground in Daraa and Quneitra, there is no visible sight of either.
                          https://www.theamericanconservative....-syrias-south/

                          Saving their sworn enemy: Heartstopping footage shows Israeli commandos rescuing wounded men from Syrian warzone - but WHY are they risking their lives for Islamic militants?

                          Israel insists that these treacherous nightly rescues are purely humanitarian, and that it can only hope to 'win hearts and minds' in Syria. But analysts suggest the Jewish state has in fact struck a deadly 'deal with the devil' – offering support to the Sunni militants who fight the Syrian ruler Assad in the hope of containing its arch enemies Hezbollah and Iran.
                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-enemies.html

                          Israel is so heavily vested in keeping Syria and its allies away from its borders, it has actively bolstered al-Qaeda and other extremists in Syria’s southern theater. As Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon famously explained in 2016,
                          “In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State.”
                          The US is basically just following Israel's lead. A country that cares nothing about ethics or violence.
                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                          - Benjamin Franklin

                          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ljadw View Post

                            There is no difference between AQ and ISIS .
                            There is no difference between supporting one over the other, but they are different groups. Different ways of fighting, different immediate objectives, different internal policies and views.
                            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                            - Benjamin Franklin

                            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                              Also, get the facts straight, it is Al-Qaida the US is supporting, not ISIS.
                              AQ isn't in Syria.

                              And there are multiple factions in Syria. There are rebel militants that are anti Assad and also anti ISIS. So enforcing a zone of control is not a declaration of support for any particular side that happens to be there.
                              Last edited by Pirateship1982; 15 Sep 18, 17:49.
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                              • #30
                                U.S. arms have been seen in Nusra’s possession for many years now, including highly valued TOW missiles, which were game-changing weapons in the Syrian military theater. When American weapons end up in al-Qaeda hands during the first or second year of a conflict, one assumes simple errors in judgment. When the problem persists after seven years, however, it starts to look like there’s a policy in place to look the other way.

                                Israel is so heavily vested in keeping Syria and its allies away from its borders, it has actively bolstered al-Qaeda and other extremists in Syria’s southern theater. As Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon famously explained in 2016, “In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State.” To justify their interventions in the battle ahead, the U.S. and Israel claim that Iranian and Hezbollah forces are present in the south, yet on the ground in Daraa and Quneitra, there is no visible sight of either.
                                https://www.theamericanconservative....-syrias-south/
                                "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                                - Benjamin Franklin

                                The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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