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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by At ease View Post

    The Pacific Ocean is a big place for a small 'plane.
    Especially one navigating with the equivalent of a water compass, plumb bob, and a sting while looking for a needle in a haystack.

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  • At ease
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    Right, and I'm sure she didn't listen to him based on the outcome.
    In 1937, the Pacific Ocean was a big place for a small 'plane.

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by At ease View Post

    Although, to be fair, she did not trust her own navigation skills and accordingly took Fred Noonan along for the ride to tell her where to go.
    Right, and I'm sure she didn't listen to him based on the outcome.

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  • At ease
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    I could go on and on about women and navigation starting with Amelia Earhart.
    Although, to be fair, she did not trust her own navigation skills and accordingly took Fred Noonan along for the ride to tell her where to go.

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    GPS is but an aide. It can be a useful aide, but it's hardly infallible. GPS is most effective when it's used in conjunction with maps viewed in advance, and if personal experience can be added to the mix then you should be golden.

    Another trait that I've noticed about Jersey folk (poor Gixxer is going to start feeling persecuted very soon ) is that they do not observe the country through which they travel. Consequently they take no note of directions and landmarks, and they are unable to repeat the journey at a later time. When I first took my missus Upstate to meet my paternal uncle and my cousins, after having not been there myself after many years, Mrs Slick was amazed that after four-some hours on the road that I was able to pull into my uncle's driveway without having referenced a map once. To me it seemed natural, even though the lapse had been six or seven years. To her it was a magic trick. That might explain my niece getting lost last night, even though she's visited my home a number of times over the years.
    I could go on and on about women and navigation starting with Amelia Earhart.

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    Then you're not a capitalist, but most conservatives nowadays aren't anyway. There's also nothing that really makes Tesla a liberal or conservative company. We don't know what their political values are.
    It's a fruits and nuts company, why is that so hard to figure out?

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Doesn't change their overall function to keep wages high and prevent firings or layoffs, however. And history clearly shows us that non-union businesses do quite well, while major union outfits are often folding and dying out.

    The unions were useful in their time, but that time is long past. Now they act more like a bake on the economy than a protection for workers.
    A time and a place for everything, under certain jobs unions can't be all the bad.

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    The "free market" is really only a slogan these days. Ours is a "corporatist" economy. Depending on one's point of view, it's either the best of both worlds, or it's the worst.
    It's more socialism than corporatist when you want companies of a certain political affiliation, allegedly anyway, to fail.

    You're probably right, but there are two things that we do know: 1) Tesla has applied and received significant help from the Federal gov't, in the form of tax deferments, buyer incentives, and low interest loans; and 2) the Tesla brand enjoys a genuine cachet among a certain milieu, the kind that patronizes Starbucks and waits on long lines when new Apple products are launched.
    I'm not sure the latter is even true. People who want to save the planet will buy a Prius, Tesla on the other hand is attracting people who are into tech and fast cars. Two entirely different demographics. Besides money is money so what difference does it make who is buying them? Does anyone fuss over the businesses that could be considered conservative who also receive government assistance?

    This is all about party first, country second that has become common among republicans.

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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post

    Marc, maybe we should start a new thread......
    Just don't run it over, okay.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    NJ is the Union's most densely populated state: hunting with rifled arms can prove most hazardous. Long Island has a similar problem: there deer hunting is restricted to smoothbores and longbows. That greatly restricts the hunting population, and consequently there's too few out there to cull the heards. Combine that with ever encroaching suburban development into heretofore agricultural and undeveloped lands, and the results are wild animals far too comfortable around humans, more communicable diseases between animals and between animals and humans, and more roadkill.
    Marc, maybe we should start a new thread......

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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post

    Well, like I said, NJ has the worst drivers, and therefore produces some of the best.

    All joking aside, I'm just as concerned about the deer. They are out of control here in central NJ.
    NJ is the Union's most densely populated state: hunting with rifled arms can prove most hazardous. Long Island has a similar problem: there deer hunting is restricted to smoothbores and longbows. That greatly restricts the hunting population, and consequently there's too few out there to cull the heards. Combine that with ever encroaching suburban development into heretofore agricultural and undeveloped lands, and the results are wild animals far too comfortable around humans, more communicable diseases between animals and between animals and humans, and more roadkill.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by slick_miester View Post

    Father in law, brothers-in-law: they're just as incurious and unobservant. Their idea of directions consists of "follow me." What they leave out is that they're absolutely clueless.

    NJ has a reputation as notoriously unfriendly to motorcyclists. In my younger days I suffered a couple of hair-raisers on your side of the Hudson, and nowadays driving there regularly I still find neddlessly stressful. However do you survive there on a motorcycle?
    Well, like I said, NJ has the worst drivers, and therefore produces some of the best.

    All joking aside, I'm just as concerned about the deer. They are out of control here in central NJ.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Well, maybe this thread is like a Tesla... It's crashed and burned...



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  • slick_miester
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post

    Certainly don't feel persecuted, I manage to observe the country quite well, thank you. But others.......

    Seems to me your point has less to do with Jersey, and more to do with gender.....
    Father in law, brothers-in-law: they're just as incurious and unobservant. Their idea of directions consists of "follow me." What they leave out is that they're absolutely clueless.

    NJ has a reputation as notoriously unfriendly to motorcyclists. In my younger days I suffered a couple of hair-raisers on your side of the Hudson, and nowadays driving there regularly I still find neddlessly stressful. However do you survive there on a motorcycle?

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Where does Tesla and electric cars fit into this discussion?
    Nowhere, MM. We're OT. I pointed that out before, but Im as guilty as the others.

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