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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    The worse ones are the anonymous sources which try to convince us that Kurdistan is independent! Most probably they try to justify to you the failure of the US policy to back up the Kurds' independence in the region. Keep spreading fake new...
    I never said that. You have an English language problem.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    Those sources are the worse ones, keep trying at some point you might learn something.
    The worse ones are the anonymous sources which try to convince us that Kurdistan is independent! Most probably they try to justify to you the failure of the US policy to back up the Kurds' independence in the region. Keep spreading fake new...

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    The reports that Kurdistan is not independent despite the referendum should be enough to prove my point that Iraq is still in control. Also, with respect to exaggerations and inaccurate reports about the situation in Iraq, the US military has its fair share of blame. So, unless you show details, you are just gasping at straws to prove your point. I used multiple sources from different sources including humanitarian organizations and Kurdish sources and all post to the same conclusion. You are clueless....
    Those sources are the worse ones, keep trying at some point you might learn something.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    Again you have no clue, many reports coming out of the country are exaggerations and have been for years. You are hilarious.
    The reports that Kurdistan is not independent despite the referendum should be enough to prove my point that Iraq is still in control. Also, with respect to exaggerations and inaccurate reports about the situation in Iraq, the US military has its fair share of blame. So, unless you show details, you are just gasping at straws to prove your point. I used multiple sources from different sources including humanitarian organizations and Kurdish sources and all post to the same conclusion. You are clueless....

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    Your sources are anonymous! Fake news!

    I expose my sources in public and everybody can see that they come from people who are REALLY there!
    Again you have no clue, many reports coming out of the country are exaggerations and have been for years. You are hilarious.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    I'm in contact with people on the ground several times a month. Your sources are a joke.
    Your sources are anonymous! Fake news!

    I expose my sources in public and everybody can see that they come from people who are REALLY there!

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    From your couch?

    When was the last time again you were there?
    I'm in contact with people on the ground several times a month. Your sources are a joke.

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  • Stonewall_Jack
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    You do not know things well.

    The state of Israel was not set by the UN! The UN General Assembly made a Recommendation about the Partition

    Read the Resolution here!

    https://undocs.org/A/RES/181(II)

    "...Recommends to the United Kingdom, as the mandatory Power for Palestine, and to all other Members of the United Nations the adoption and implementation, with regard to the future govemment of Palestine, of the Plan of Partition with Economie Union set out beIow;"


    A recommendation is not binding, especially when it is about the self-determination of people. It was obvious that without an agreement between the communities a recommendation meant NOTHING. Thus, a unilateral declaration by the Jews in Palestine for the establishment of an Israeli state was a legitimate reason to have a war. That was clear to everybody! So, stop creating double standards regarding which causes of war are legitimate and which ones are not. You do the same thing some Israeli supporters do. When somebody criticizes Israel, they argue that he is antisemitic. This is the usual line of those who want to exploit the Holocaust and use it as a substitute for their poor arguments in order to justify their double standards.

    And you are wrong that the plan split the Mandate along ethnic lines. The vast majority of the Jews came to Palestine in the last couple of decades. This is like saying that if we draw lines separating immigrants from natives, we are somehow fair.

    from BRITISH sources

    https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unisp...2565E90048ED1C


    There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

    The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000.

    ...


    HERBERT SAMUEL,

    High Commissioner
    and Commander-in-Chief.

    30th July, 1921.

    /...



    Yes, there were more Christians than Jews in the Palestinian region just two decades before the foundation of Israel!

    The thing is that at the time, everybody wanted the Palestinians to pay for the German atrocities, Even the antisemitic elements in western country wanted to see a land somewhere in ME which could attract the Jews from other countries. This is why everybody at the time was supporting a solution that was clealry against the Palestinian interests.





    Excellent points. 300 million Christians of the Axis powers stood against Jews. Many of them wanted Jews gone and obv would have supported any measure to remove Jews to far off lands. OTOH, the Allied powers which stood for equality among man led by the Big 3 defeated the Axis powers in the greatest struggle of human history, the deadliest one also.

    The Jewish folks experienced there greatest ever struggle against Christian Europeans. I respect the many ex Soviet Jews whom fought for Israel, those Soviet Jews are the ones that would today say they stand against the various Israeli gov unequal policies.

    A small # of Americans and Brits have been mislead by Pro Israel and Pro Saudi people...but these folks can change, there is always a chance for redemption in this world. Israel, Saudi and Iran are not the same free loving countries as are Canada, Turkey, the USA and England. But change is always possible. The facts can not be denied by those lobbyists in the USA whom take money over pride.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    Unlike you, I am the source. Now go on your way.
    From your couch?

    When was the last time again you were there?

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    The real trolls do the thing you do. They start being confrontational without providing a single source to advance the discussion. You are a clear champion in this area....
    Unlike you, I am the source. Now go on your way.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    I thought so, you are trolling again.
    The real trolls do the thing you do. They start being confrontational without providing a single source to advance the discussion. You are a clear champion in this area....
    Last edited by pamak; 17 Aug 18, 19:22.

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    I am bringing the links from sources which HAVE been there! When was the last time, YOU were there Mr , Expert?
    I thought so, you are trolling again.

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    Again you are wrong. When was the last time you were there, Mr. Expert?
    I am bringing the links from sources which HAVE been there! When was the last time, YOU were there Mr , Expert?

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  • 101combatvet
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    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    I do not care about explanations that are not based on evidence! I do not trust you , and I do not ask anybody to trust me so that I can make claims without giving evidence. Bottom line is that I produced evidence of Iraqie control in Kurdistan and you did not. Bottom line is that despite the referendum for independence, there is not an independent Kurdistan today.
    Again you are wrong. When was the last time you were there, Mr. Expert?

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  • pamak
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    Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    NO! I explained the situation while you have no clue. You can not look at this piecemeal, the reason why you do is that you do not know the region and why things are the way they are. Trust me; if the Kurds were not told to pull back, they would still be in Kirkuk.
    I do not care about explanations that are not based on evidence! I do not trust you , and I do not ask anybody to trust me so that I can make claims without giving evidence. Bottom line is that I produced evidence of Iraqie control in Kurdistan and you did not. Bottom line is that despite the referendum for independence, there is not an independent Kurdistan today.

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