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  • Stonewall_Jack
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    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
    In 1960, there was a coup in SJ's Utopia (Turkey ) and the PM was hanged with two of his ministers, 20 years later there was a new coup ,50 people were executed and 650000 were arrested.
    Later there were'' incidents'' in 1971,1993,1997,2003,2004 and 2007, not forgetting what happened in 2016 .
    That's the country that SJ is recommemding us as the US of the ME .
    Part of growing pains even in civil countries, but does not compare to the violence of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...raeli-conflict


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  • Emtos
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    Nothing horrible here. Turkey is the best exemple for the ME.

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  • ljadw
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    In 1960, there was a coup in SJ's Utopia (Turkey ) and the PM was hanged with two of his ministers, 20 years later there was a new coup ,50 people were executed and 650000 were arrested.
    Later there were'' incidents'' in 1971,1993,1997,2003,2004 and 2007, not forgetting what happened in 2016 .
    That's the country that SJ is recommemding us as the US of the ME .

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  • Stonewall_Jack
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Israel is a parliamentary democracy and has universal suffrage. Its legal system is based on English common law, civil law, and Jewish law, which means equality before the law for all of its citizens-Jews, Arabs, and Druse.
    Well now at least partner you and Iljadw agree on something , that is apparently support of Israel. Good you guys are getting along and maybe can realize its millions of people of the middle east whom are the ones that would also want you to support change for the better in the middle east.

    Probably the best way to view Israel/Palestine is to disagree with both the Israeli Gov as well as the Palestinian Gov representatives. This is how millions of Muslims and Jews of Israel/Palestine feel about the situation. I have real world experience here I have meant with many Palestinians who themselves have worked with Israels. In my lines of work I have been able to speak with a good many Muslims and Jews whom clearly support equality and want change in the middle east.

    What can be said is that the USA has a doubled standard toward Israel/Saudi compared to Iran.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_law

    That is not similar to US Law. Israel does not provide equality to the people. Its a matter of taking a stand, and the weak leadership of Israel is unwilling to do the right thing by bringing in equal civil laws. As time goes on though Israeli liberals will hopefully gain power in their country and along with Palestinian liberals will be able to address the one or two state solution. . Its not just the fact that Israel like Saudi Arabia and Iran has unequal civil laws....there is also the Israel Palestine situation as well, that is a bad ordeal and nothing of the likes is seen in the USA.

    Turkish law otoh is similar to US law. What beautiful people the Turks are standing for the legacy of Ataturk. It may be that Erdogan like Trump is acting Authoritarian in some ways, but in the end its the American people and Turkish people which put both of these men into power. Still even with folks like Erdogan and Trump in power, only a revoultion can change the ways of countries like the USA and Turkey. Turkey does have a history of attempted coups, and that is a difference between Turkey and the USA,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkis..._d%27%C3%A9tat

    Even with the coups though Turkey still has the best civil laws in the middle east. This is due to Ataturks popularity among Turks whom supported or opposed the gov in power.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_civil_code_(1926)

    And yes there is no race, no Jewish, white black or Japanese race.

    In 1950, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) issued a statement asserting that all humans belong to the same species and that “race” is not a biological reality but a myth. This was a summary of the findings of an international panel of anthropologists, geneticists, sociologists, and psychologists.

    https://www.newsweek.com/there-no-su...ng-race-283123

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post

    Israel like Saudi and Iran, have Governments that promote inequality among man . But the peoples of these countries...the masses, want freedom.
    Israel is a parliamentary democracy and has universal suffrage. Its legal system is based on English common law, civil law, and Jewish law, which means equality before the law for all of its citizens-Jews, Arabs, and Druse.

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