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  • T. A. Gardner
    started a topic Voter fraud in Georga?

    Voter fraud in Georga?

    670 votes in a district with 276 registered voters... Yea, sure...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    Methinks there is a problem...

  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Four of Georgia's fourteen US House members are Democrats too.
    And the two US senators are Republicans. That combined with the state senior executives makes it a red state-like it or not. I would actually think you'd be gloating over that.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    voter fraud is a problem for us all. FL 2000 still doesn't sit well.
    BINGO!

    Actually been a concern since decades before that, and a common concern and ploy by either side that LOSES in an election.

    But as we are beginning to see (hopefully), this is more a systemic flaw or problem and Process needs fixing it appears.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    But you don't know, and by the article no one else does either, that it was voter fraud. You might want to consider that the other alternatives in the article are the reason. However, it is apparent that you want to kowtow to the Republican narrative against all else. Partisan politics is not the issue here. It is a national problem. I don't really understand why you cannot fathom that.
    With Admin indulgence, a copy-paste on similar subject from a closely related thread;
    ......
    YES, I read it, but I'm wondering if YOU really did, or understood it ???
    A better and more objective response would be if you could 'copy-paste' the part that shows "error of errors" as you suggest. I'll do that here;
    EXCERPT/QUOTE:

    ..."Some issues, such as the freezing machines, could be chalked up to the age of the polling infrastructure, said Harri Hursti, a computer programmer who studies election cybersecurity.

    But others, like the incorrect ballots, could have been caused by anything from a clerical error to a malicious manipulation of voter data, said Hursti, who is also the organizer for the Voting Village at hacking conference DEF CON, where participants demonstrate hacking into some state voting machines.

    It's possible that there's a connection between the security issues reported at Georgia's Center for Election Systems and the issues chronicled in the court statements, but an immediate switch to paper ballots is necessary regardless, Hursti said.

    "But the connection is not needed," he said. "You don't need to have a smoking gun to do the right thing."

    In a statement, the office of Georgia's Secretary of State Brian Kemp defended the security of state elections.

    "Alongside federal, local and private sector partners, we continue to fight every day to ensure secure and accurate elections in Georgia that are free from interference. To this day, due to the vigilance, dedication and hard work of those partners, our elections system and voting equipment remain secure," spokeswoman Candice Broce wrote in an email.

    Kemp has set up a bipartisan commission to look into changing state voting machines ahead of the 2020 elections, but not in time for the midterm elections this November.
    ..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...UA4?li=BBnb7Kz

    Now it's the second paragraph in the above that would match your less then genuine subjective opinion/comment and note that it includes "malicious manipulation" as one of the possible "errors of errors" as you put it. Did comprehension fail you or are you intentionally being disingenuous ???

    Perhaps this topic needs a more encompassing label such as "voting fraud" or "voting defects" or similar, to run the range from intentional deceptions to systematic defects.

    Bottom-line is that the voting system in this country is a bit "loosey-goosey" and in need of better, more accurate and efficient systems, improved voter identification and certification (i.e. CITIZENS ONLY), and increased hack proof and fools prove tabulation methods.
    ...........

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    With the governor, lieutenant governor, and secretary of state, as well as other government officials being Republicans, I would definitely say that it is a 'red' state.

    Maybe, but it isn't a "pure GOP" one. There are lots of areas that vote Democrat as evidenced by the map I posted. The problem in the OP however, was in a GOP heavy district. But, that said, Georgia is not solidly Republican.

    http://www.house.ga.gov/Representati...mbersList.aspx

    Four of Georgia's fourteen US House members are Democrats too.

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  • Massena
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    With the governor, lieutenant governor, and secretary of state, as well as other government officials being Republicans, I would definitely say that it is a 'red' state.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Like I said

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...ia_(U.S._state)

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post

    GA is pure GOP State.
    Sure it is...

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  • Massena
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    Voter fraud is something that has to be discovered and rooted out. I don't believe, however, that it has made a difference in elections and it certainly is not as widespread as some would like us all to think.

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  • Half Pint John
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    voter fraud is a problem for us all. FL 2000 still doesn't sit well.

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  • Massena
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    That being the case, then the comments regarding voter fraud would be a Republican problem, wouldn't it?

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    They aren't going to admit even suspected voter fraud if it's present. After all, that would be a blow to the narrative of the Left that voter fraud doesn't exist.
    GA is pure GOP State.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
    TAG I read this Article twice and it tells me exactly nothing about Voter Fraud, it points in all directions 360 degrees, it's typical of MSN, Hyperbole Headlines and nothing in the text except Word Salad!
    They aren't going to admit even suspected voter fraud if it's present. After all, that would be a blow to the narrative of the Left that voter fraud doesn't exist.

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  • Trung Si
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    TAG I read this Article twice and it tells me exactly nothing about Voter Fraud, it points in all directions 360 degrees, it's typical of MSN, Hyperbole Headlines and nothing in the text except Word Salad!
    Last edited by Trung Si; 12 Aug 18, 20:57.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    But you don't know that, either personally or by the article. It could be the result of a Russian hack, as stated in the article, or it may be a mistake of some type. Unless voter fraud is proven, and it's far from that, then the best we can do is wait and see and not have a knee-jerk reaction to a situation.
    And you don't know it isn't. Assuming it's fraudulent is as valid as assuming otherwise.

    By the way, voter ID has been judged unconstitutional has it not?
    Nope. Many states have voter ID laws. But, as a state moves Left and Democrat, there are greater concerted efforts to remove any voter ID laws that exist.

    This article might be somewhat surprising:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp
    The article is somewhere between disingenuous and outright fabrication.

    For example, it says this:

    A strict rule on the collection of absentee ballots in Arizona is being challenged as a form of voter suppression.
    That law was to prevent political party operatives collecting mail-in ballots and even helping those they collected them from fill them out. It was passed to prevent a form of potential voter fraud. It isn't "voter suppression." How does a law that prevents a political operative from going door to door to collect mail in ballots prevent someone from mailing theirs in individually? There is no postage requirement so doing that is free. The article is lying calling it voter suppression.

    If anything, it is the Democrats and others primarily on the Left that are encouraging voter fraud through fighting any and all attempts to require positive proof from voters they are eligible to vote.



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