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  • #61
    Originally posted by pamak View Post

    Bold mine

    Responding to the warnings of the vast majority of the scientific community about climate change is not a leftist dogma. On the other hand, the rejection of such warnings by non-experts or by oddballs within the scientific community (who always exist and challenge mainstream science) IS a right-wing dogma.


    Using cleaner technology so that we do not become like Manchester was during the industrial revolution or like the Chinese cities are today is not leftist dogma.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPzzlBVtXH0


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    If the right wing dogma is to live under such conditions, then we should conclude that this dogma makes people sick .
    These "warnings of the vast majority of the scientific community" have anything in common with "consensus science" of several centuries ago where the view was of an Earth-centric Cosmos~Universe ???

    Cleaner technology for things like carbon resource( "fossil fuel" ) combustion is what removes sulfur-dioxide, source of acid rains, from atmosphere and in the chemical process intros some extra H2O and CO2. See FGD ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flue-gas_desulfurization

    Like most science and chemistry deficit Leftie-Loonies, you overlook that 99+% of life on this planet NEEDS CO2 and ideally at over 300ppm. So why are you among those whom hate most of the Life on this Planet ???

    Meanwhile, a view going back to near planet formation shows that Natural Climate Change Cycles have Temperature changes driving CO2 levels and not the other way around.

    Last edited by G David Bock; 10 Aug 18, 22:51.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

      These "warnings of the vast majority of the scientific community" have anything in common with "consensus science" of several centuries ago where the view was of an Earth-centric Cosmos~Universe ???

      Cleaner technology for things like carbon resource( "fossil fuel" ) combustion is what removes sulfur-dioxide, source of acid rains, from atmosphere and in the chemical process intors some extra H2O and CO2. See FGD ...
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flue-gas_desulfurization

      Like most science and chemistry deficit Leftie-Loonies, you overlook that 99+% of life on this planet NEEDS CO2 and ideally at over 300ppm. So why are you among those whom hate most of the Life on this Planet ???

      Meanwhile, a view going back to near planet formation shows that Natural Climate Change Cycles have Temperature changes driving CO2 levels and not the other way around.

      Bold mine


      https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

      Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.

      You can read the statements of the different scientific bodies in the above link. Consensus does no mean that a scientific opinion reflects the truth. Occasionally dissenters get it right, but this is the exception of the general rule in which dissenters are much more frequently wrong either because they are misinformed or because they serve particular interests. For this reason, it is not difficult to find a much more fresh (compared to yours) historical example when the dissenters of the tobacco industry were wrong in trying to refute the studies linking smoking to cancer.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490543/

      As for your remarks about he "leftist" scientists, If all the above organizations are "leftists" does this mean that you should thank the "left" for the scientific progress? Or is it that the "right" is populated by people who cannot contribute to science either because of lower intellect or because of the cultural restraints of their ideology ?
      Last edited by pamak; 10 Aug 18, 23:21.
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      • #63
        The problem is the rapid rise, which will no doubt disrupt any natural cycle in place. Dunno what exactly you are gaining by denying that, other than filling the bucket with **** before you kick it. Whatever the eventual effect is it will be global
        Wisdom is personal

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        • #64
          Energy executives lament Trump tariffs as costs rise on pipeline projects

          https://www.yahoo.com/news/energy-ex...--finance.html
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #65
            And now Trump is attacking an American company in the tariff dispute:

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...cid=spartandhp

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