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  • Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

    You are full of it, no data just your insane way of mixing up facts and adding your opinion. As usual you have nothing.
    Easy 101. Your getting baited again. Don't respond in kind. They want to get you into trouble yet again.
    Credo quia absurdum.


    Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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    • Originally posted by Bwaha View Post

      Easy 101. Your getting baited again. Don't respond in kind. They want to get you into trouble yet again.
      Check.... he has no data it's all fake news. My Gun Club increased membership by 300 people this year, we have a waiting list to join now.

      My worst jump story:
      My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
      As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
      No lie.

      ~
      "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
      -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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      • Originally posted by Bwaha View Post

        Easy 101. Your getting baited again. Don't respond in kind. They want to get you into trouble yet again.
        So, let us try to have a reasonable discussion about what we have said so far. Since you have said that you are tired of all this bickering and trolling, and since you show some interest in this subject, I think with a little bit of restraint we can carry the conversation with our resorting to personal comments and provocations...
        My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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        • That works for me. Question, have you ever been to a NRA safety course? Have you ever taken any courses from them?

          As I see it this whole thing is about liberals try to shut down the organization that really educates people in firearm safety. That it fights fore my second amendment right is a plus. You should tdo some first hand investigation instead of depending on talking head. There's defiantly yellow journalism going on in the op.

          Here's a good starting point. https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

          About their training courses. https://explore.nra.org/interests/firearms-training/

          So when people start spouting how they are solely a propaganda machine they are either mislead or outright lying. (Imo).
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • , Form 44
            Originally posted by pamak View Post

            So, let us try to have a reasonable discussion about what we have said so far. Since you have said that you are tired of all this bickering and trolling, and since you show some interest in this subject, I think with a little bit of restraint we can carry the conversation with our resorting to personal comments and provocations...
            Look, I can respect where you are coming from, but you are on the wrong side of this argument form 4473 has been around since 1968, and it lists all gun purchases in the US from gun dealers, it clearly shows that gun purchases are the highest that they have ever been, who owns them and where they are no-one knows, it's just a WAGS, but getting back to the OP, the OP is pissed that Trump is the POTUS and will post anything that he thinks is supportive of Trump, Yes, NRA Membership is as high as it has ever been, and no the NRA is not about to be broke!
            Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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            • Anti-gun = retard

              My worst jump story:
              My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
              As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
              No lie.

              ~
              "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
              -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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              • Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
                , Form 44

                Look, I can respect where you are coming from, but you are on the wrong side of this argument form 4473 has been around since 1968, and it lists all gun purchases in the US from gun dealers, it clearly shows that gun purchases are the highest that they have ever been, who owns them and where they are no-one knows, it's just a WAGS, but getting back to the OP, the OP is pissed that Trump is the POTUS and will post anything negative on anyone that he thinks is supportive of Trump, Yes, NRA Membership is as high as it has ever been, and no the NRA is not about to be broke!
                Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                • Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                  That works for me. Question, have you ever been to a NRA safety course? Have you ever taken any courses from them?

                  As I see it this whole thing is about liberals try to shut down the organization that really educates people in firearm safety. That it fights fore my second amendment right is a plus. You should tdo some first hand investigation instead of depending on talking head. There's defiantly yellow journalism going on in the op.

                  Here's a good starting point. https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

                  About their training courses. https://explore.nra.org/interests/firearms-training/

                  So when people start spouting how they are solely a propaganda machine they are either mislead or outright lying. (Imo).
                  I am not sure what you are trying to say. I presume we discuss if the rate of gun-ownership has gone down or not These links do not show any estimation of the gun-ownership rate.
                  My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                  • Originally posted by pamak View Post

                    I am not sure what you are trying to say. I presume we discuss if the rate of gun-ownership has gone down or not These links do not show any estimation of the gun-ownership rate.
                    No one can show accurate gun ownership rates.
                    My worst jump story:
                    My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
                    As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
                    No lie.

                    ~
                    "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
                    -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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                    • Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
                      , Form 44

                      Look, I can respect where you are coming from, but you are on the wrong side of this argument form 4473 has been around since 1968, and it lists all gun purchases in the US from gun dealers, it clearly shows that gun purchases are the highest that they have ever been, who owns them and where they are no-one knows, it's just a WAGS, but getting back to the OP, the OP is pissed that Trump is the POTUS and will post anything that he thinks is supportive of Trump, Yes, NRA Membership is as high as it has ever been, and no the NRA is not about to be broke!
                      To clarify again, I did not bring information that the gun purchases have gone down. I brought information that the gun ownership rate has gone down, meaning a lower percentage of the population today (compared to 1970) has guns. But for sure, with a much bigger economy, this lower percentage can afford to spend much more money for its hobby, passion, love, or whatever you want to call it! So, the fact that the gun sales are up does not invalidate the information I brought which show that a lower percentage of people own guns.

                      I think we can agree that the NRA has but a small percentage of gun-owners, who are most committed ideologically to guns. This demographic is not going to change. It is the less committed demographic which finds guns increasingly obsolete. If you noticed, the same study which estimated that we have a lower gun-ownership rate today found that fewer people go for hunting these days which makes sense since a higher percentage of populations has mover to urban areas. It seems such developments have affected the attitude off casual gun-owners who under different circumstances, they would have bought a gun just for hunting.
                      Last edited by pamak; 05 Sep 18, 22:23.
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                      • Originally posted by pamak View Post

                        I am not sure what you are trying to say. I presume we discuss if the rate of gun-ownership has gone down or not These links do not show any estimation of the gun-ownership rate.
                        So what are you saying? that the gun ownership has gone down? fraid not, it's the highest it's ever been, get more democRats elected and it will even get higher, I sh-t you not.
                        Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                        • Originally posted by Trung Si View Post

                          So what are you saying? that the gun ownership has gone down? fraid not, it's the highest it's ever been, get more democRats elected and it will even get higher, I sh-t you not.
                          Based on a study that has been used since 1972 to estimate gun-ownership in the US, I say that the gun ownership has gone down

                          Again here is the study! It is important to realize that the methodology is the same since 1972

                          http://www.norc.org/PDFs/GSS%20Repor..._1972-2014.pdf

                          My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                          • Originally posted by Trung Si View Post

                            So what are you saying? that the gun ownership has gone down? fraid not, it's the highest it's ever been, get more democRats elected and it will even get higher, I sh-t you not.


                            Even if we accept the 33% figure from his article, doesnít that mean there are at least tens of millions of gun owners?
                            Iím willing to bet that is more than the number of people who exercise their constitutional right to an abortion (at least annually) and yet I donít think anyone would try to imply that fewer abortions annually means anything with respect to the existence of the right. The Constitutional right to own a gun exists regardless of how many people actually own one.
                            This thread has convinced me to renew my NRA membership and maybe buy some more guns.
                            Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                            Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                            • Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post

                              No one can show accurate gun ownership rates.
                              The scientists can still make reasonable estimates. And when such estimates show a big difference between the gun-ownership rates in 1972 and today, this is sufficient to show that we have a reduction of the gun ownership rate.
                              My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                              • Originally posted by pamak View Post

                                The scientists can still make reasonable estimates. And when such estimates show a big difference between the gun-ownership rates in 1972 and today, this is sufficient to show that we have a reduction of the gun ownership rate.
                                What's the difference in population growth and gun ownership? There's a hell of a lot more people and urban people have a much less need than rural people.

                                As Charlton Heston stated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw
                                Credo quia absurdum.


                                Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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