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  • Surely all decent US conservatives find Trump a reckless, appallingly naïve dupe?

    Surely by now all decent US conservatives must find Trump a reckless, appallingly naïve, boorish, and vulgar dupe?

    In the lead-up to the election I did on many occasions express my liking for Trump. ......................AS AN ENTERTAINER !
    That’s still essentially what he is - he really treats his ‘job’ as another reality show he’s staring in.
    He always seems to make it about him and loves every minute of the attention, lapping up the fear and loathing he deliberately generates.

    He plays to his base in way no other incumbent ever has, regularly feeding them a new dish of red meat to keep them compliant.
    Why the continuing rallies if he won?
    I get that he wants to have a totally different approach to previous occupants of the White House and clean out the ‘swamp’ his supporters think Washington is full of.
    He’s deliberately and I’m’ sure to many of his acolytes, deliciously divisive.
    All of which may make him a great ‘operator’ to those who have joined his personality cult.

    But as a real president….Come on!!
    He’s embarrassing and cringe - worthy.
    Not just to those who voted against him (the majority of those who voted) and the GOP but to a sizeable body of people who see themselves as proper and decent conservatives.

    This latest episode, Trump’s guest appearance on the Vladimir Putin All-Stars Show must mean that for all half-decent, true-American conservatives that enough is enough!
    Bizarre!
    A US president backing a malignant, Machiavellian, Stalin-admiring, ‘Scorpion King’ of a dictator over his own intelligence agencies!
    This just after interfering in UK politics, a faux-pas with the queen and confusing NATO members about whose side the US ultimately is on.

    Sheesh……Surely a debate about impeachment (whether you believe it a political or legal process) must now move to centre stage.
    Can’t have a Manchurian candidate in the White House folks, that’s just in the movies.

    Regards
    lodestar

  • Massena
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    Vice President Pence on the subject of impeachment and the reasons for it.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/06/polit...mns/index.html

    Pence is nothing but a sychophant and a lickspittle-a mere paper cutout of a real person.

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  • Massena
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    Material by Max Boot:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/peopl...=.9169bfdbd166

    Have you read any of his books? It might be an education for you.

    And it should be noted that Max Boot is a conservative, no matter what political party he does or does not belong to.

    People are leaving the Republican Party because it is no longer the Republican Party. It is the Trump party and that bodes no good for the country.

    Being and acting like an American is what is important, and Trump and his get most certainly do not. They are loyal to Trump, not the United States.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Really? Which conservatives are you talking about? Max Boot who quit the Republican party, works at the Washington Post, and stands with the Democrats now?
    Rick Wilson, a "GOP consultant" whose Conservative credentials are not shown in the article? Consulting for the GOP doesn't equal being Conservative necessarily.

    Maybe one of these:

    .

    Same thing. RINO's all.

    I could go on, but the article conflates so many bad positions and mischaracterizes so many people's positions it's hardly worth doing.
    Nothing but 'party' matters to you, does it?

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    The "DECENT" ones do, however...
    BS. The decent ones are the ones who elected Trump in order to throw out your crowd.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Sorry you missed the point. The article is about certain conservatives and their viewpoints. Did you actually read it? You certainly didn't understand it.
    Really? Which conservatives are you talking about? Max Boot who quit the Republican party, works at the Washington Post, and stands with the Democrats now?
    Rick Wilson, a "GOP consultant" whose Conservative credentials are not shown in the article? Consulting for the GOP doesn't equal being Conservative necessarily.

    Maybe one of these:

    But the famous names attached to Never Trump-ism give their message outsize reach. Some, like columnist George Will, strategists Steve Schmidt and Mary Matalin, and TV host Joe Scarborough, have quit the Republican Party
    .

    Same thing. RINO's all.

    I could go on, but the article conflates so many bad positions and mischaracterizes so many people's positions it's hardly worth doing.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    The "DECENT" ones do, however...

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  • Half Pint John
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    The "DECENT" ones do, however...

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    There's hardly anything Conservative about the reporting of that, or the Clinton News Network.
    Sorry you missed the point. The article is about certain conservatives and their viewpoints. Did you actually read it? You certainly didn't understand it.

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  • SRV Ron
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    There's hardly anything Conservative about the reporting of that, or the Clinton News Network.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    Iran which leads to Russian involvement. North Korea which leads to Chinese involvement.
    I doubt that Russia would get involved to pull Iran's chestnuts out of a fire other than supply materials.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Surely all decent US conservatives find Democrats reckless, appallingly naïve dupes.

    Yes, we do.

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Not compared to past Presidents. JFK was probably the worst at that. He came within a hare's breath of starting WW 3 at least twice in his short time in office.

    Trump really doesn't even have anyone to start WW 3 with.
    Iran which leads to Russian involvement. North Korea which leads to Chinese involvement.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    I have a question... Where is there a conservative viewpoint in that article?

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  • Massena
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    A conservative viewpoint:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

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