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  • Massena
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    Vice President Pence on the subject of impeachment and the reasons for it.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/06/polit...mns/index.html

    Pence is nothing but a sychophant and a lickspittle-a mere paper cutout of a real person.

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  • Massena
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    Material by Max Boot:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/peopl...=.9169bfdbd166

    Have you read any of his books? It might be an education for you.

    And it should be noted that Max Boot is a conservative, no matter what political party he does or does not belong to.

    People are leaving the Republican Party because it is no longer the Republican Party. It is the Trump party and that bodes no good for the country.

    Being and acting like an American is what is important, and Trump and his get most certainly do not. They are loyal to Trump, not the United States.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Really? Which conservatives are you talking about? Max Boot who quit the Republican party, works at the Washington Post, and stands with the Democrats now?
    Rick Wilson, a "GOP consultant" whose Conservative credentials are not shown in the article? Consulting for the GOP doesn't equal being Conservative necessarily.

    Maybe one of these:

    .

    Same thing. RINO's all.

    I could go on, but the article conflates so many bad positions and mischaracterizes so many people's positions it's hardly worth doing.
    Nothing but 'party' matters to you, does it?

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    The "DECENT" ones do, however...
    BS. The decent ones are the ones who elected Trump in order to throw out your crowd.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post

    Sorry you missed the point. The article is about certain conservatives and their viewpoints. Did you actually read it? You certainly didn't understand it.
    Really? Which conservatives are you talking about? Max Boot who quit the Republican party, works at the Washington Post, and stands with the Democrats now?
    Rick Wilson, a "GOP consultant" whose Conservative credentials are not shown in the article? Consulting for the GOP doesn't equal being Conservative necessarily.

    Maybe one of these:

    But the famous names attached to Never Trump-ism give their message outsize reach. Some, like columnist George Will, strategists Steve Schmidt and Mary Matalin, and TV host Joe Scarborough, have quit the Republican Party
    .

    Same thing. RINO's all.

    I could go on, but the article conflates so many bad positions and mischaracterizes so many people's positions it's hardly worth doing.

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    The "DECENT" ones do, however...

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  • Half Pint John
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    The "DECENT" ones do, however...

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  • Massena
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    There's hardly anything Conservative about the reporting of that, or the Clinton News Network.
    Sorry you missed the point. The article is about certain conservatives and their viewpoints. Did you actually read it? You certainly didn't understand it.

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  • SRV Ron
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    There's hardly anything Conservative about the reporting of that, or the Clinton News Network.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

    Iran which leads to Russian involvement. North Korea which leads to Chinese involvement.
    I doubt that Russia would get involved to pull Iran's chestnuts out of a fire other than supply materials.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Surely all decent US conservatives find Democrats reckless, appallingly naïve dupes.

    Yes, we do.

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Not compared to past Presidents. JFK was probably the worst at that. He came within a hare's breath of starting WW 3 at least twice in his short time in office.

    Trump really doesn't even have anyone to start WW 3 with.
    Iran which leads to Russian involvement. North Korea which leads to Chinese involvement.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    I have a question... Where is there a conservative viewpoint in that article?

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  • Massena
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    A conservative viewpoint:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

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  • Konzev
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    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    Surely by now all decent US conservatives must find Trump a reckless, appallingly naïve, boorish, and vulgar dupe?
    As a mover and shaker, he has his followers in the political naive and disinterested.



    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    In the lead-up to the election I did on many occasions express my liking for Trump. ......................AS AN ENTERTAINER !
    Sad to say, but do not most politicians are being build up to this purpose ?
    It's all about ratings, and the MSM loves winners. Trump delivers it.

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    That’s still essentially what he is - he really treats his ‘job’ as another reality show he’s staring in.
    Do not blame Trump for this format, the networks reduced politics this way.

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    He always seems to make it about him and loves every minute of the attention, lapping up the fear and loathing he deliberately generates.
    You remember the wrestling heroes, people love the drama, and a good fight, and there has to be a good villain. Trump serves both images, whatever party you in, you have him either way.

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    He plays to his base in way no other incumbent ever has, regularly feeding them a new dish of red meat to keep them compliant.
    Why the continuing rallies if he won?
    This momentum might carry him into the next election period, it would not surprise me, if he wins.

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    I get that he wants to have a totally different approach to previous occupants of the White House and clean out the ‘swamp’ his supporters think Washington is full of.
    Washington had this coming a long time ago, look of how issues, real or BS where being tackled, or simply news of high importance not being addressed at all, at the networks. CNN was one of the worst offenders.

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    He’s deliberately and I’m’ sure to many of his acolytes, deliciously divisive.
    All of which may make him a great ‘operator’ to those who have joined his personality cult.
    You have to give him, that he does delivers, up to the point, that he often retracks, if he has no other choices. But anyway, who pays attention to the retracktions ?

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    But as a real president….Come on!!
    Who was the last real American president ? That is the question bugging me for a long time .
    It seems to get from bad, really bad, to worse.
    Ask yourself, why the American presidential candidate is to be chosen from the Oligarchy ?
    They are all filthy rich , aren't they ?

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    He’s embarrassing and cringe - worthy.
    Not just to those who voted against him (the majority of those who voted) and the GOP but to a sizeable body of people who see themselves as proper and decent conservatives.
    The pool of decent Republicans has pretty much thinned out, I can only find Ron Paul, and you ?

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    This latest episode, Trump’s guest appearance on the Vladimir Putin All-Stars Show must mean that for all half-decent, true-American conservatives that enough is enough!
    Bizarre!
    A US president backing a malignant, Machiavellian, Stalin-admiring, ‘Scorpion King’ of a dictator over his own intelligence agencies!
    This just after interfering in UK politics, a faux-pas with the queen and confusing NATO members about whose side the US ultimately is on.
    Does it ever occur to you, that this malignant, Machiavellian, Stalin-admiring, ‘Scorpion King’ of a dictator, could actually be a half decent person ?
    that really does serve his country, without compromise and wavering ?
    Does it not occur to you that you are being hoodwinked by one of the most vile and corrupt MSM ?

    Originally posted by lodestar View Post
    Sheesh……Surely a debate about impeachment (whether you believe it a political or legal process) must now move to centre stage.
    Can’t have a Manchurian candidate in the White House folks, that’s just in the movies.

    Regards
    lodestar
    You are a fool to believe, if you believe that cutting off this head, the only head of this monster you are able to see of the hydra, will resolve the issues at hand. What, if it gets worse after this deed ?

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