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  • #46
    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    There is a lack of self awareness necessarily contributing to the absorption of propaganda.

    I listen to these liberal professors who have become victims of the monster they helped create and it is clear that they do not see the connection between socialism and the lack of individual responsibility. Group identity is not a substitute for individual dignity and consciousness.
    And I gave you a link in which you became victim of such propaganda here

    https://forums.armchairgeneral.com/f...94#post4502694


    And it was not that you bought a casual story that a journalist got it wrong. You actually showed an eagerness to buy a conspiracy theory that Seth Rich murder was linked to the fact that he was supposedly the source of the wikileaks,
    Last edited by pamak; 15 Jul 18, 15:51.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by pamak View Post

      And I gave you a link in which you became victim of such propaganda here

      https://forums.armchairgeneral.com/f...94#post4502694


      And it was not that you bought a casual story that a journalist got it wrong. You actually showed an eagerness to buy a conspiracy theory that Seth Rich murder was linked to the fact that he was supposedly the source of the wikileaks,
      I trust wikileaks when they say that Russian's were not their source but you would rather believe the media and intelligence agencies that gave us weapons of mass destruction. It is sad that the left has turned themselves into pawns of the "establishment".
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      • #48
        The real question is... Why do the more Americans watch FOX news than other outlets? The second question is... Why as a news outlet moves Left does it lose viewers or readers and decline in circulation?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

          CNN is propaganda a lot of the time. They regularly lie in their "news" reporting.

          The WaPo has largely become an opinion paper rather than one that factually reports the news.
          I've noticed CNN engaging in misreporting, distorting facts and outright falsehoods.
          They also have a biased pejorative slant.

          Did you notice that in the final days of the campaign they took to describing Roy Moore as "accused child molestor" Roy Moore.
          Not that I'm defending him, he sounds like he had a pretty creepy history.

          However, I wonder why Bill Clinton wasn't afforded the same courtesy.
          "At a Hillary campaign rally today accused rapist William Clinton spoke to the crowd...."

          Me too?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

            I trust wikileaks when they say that Russian's were not their source but you would rather believe the media and intelligence agencies that gave us weapons of mass destruction. It is sad that the left has turned themselves into pawns of the "establishment".
            So, you do not trust the different intelligence directors who were picked by two different administrations and the different intelligence agencies which told us that the Russians were behind the wikileaks. The fact that foreign agents often approach people by assuming fake identities should be common knowledge. You seem to believe that foreign agents give their business cards to people they try to use..
            More than that, you arrive @ the conclusion that it was Seth Rich the one who leaked the DNC emails even though you heard nothing of this sort from wikileaks. And now , you start a thread in which you tell us about the misinformation of the liberal media when it has been demonstrated that misinformation hit you like a truck, and not only you did not realize it, but you continue to believe in such conspiracies despite the absence of any rational piece of evidence..
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            • #51
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              The real question is... Why do the more Americans watch FOX news than other outlets? The second question is... Why as a news outlet moves Left does it lose viewers or readers and decline in circulation?
              It is not an important question:

              Most probably, it is for the same reason more Americans watch a reality show than a documentary...

              It is also the issue of demographics: More older people are conservatives, and it is this group which has plenty of time to spend countless hours in front of cable news channels to watch the news. Younger people work, have less time available and they tend to get their news from different sources.
              Last edited by pamak; 16 Jul 18, 04:15.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

                It is sad that the left has turned themselves into pawns of the "establishment".
                It is not sad, it is obvious, it is natural that they did it ,as the liberals are always for sale .

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by pamak View Post

                  It is not an important question:

                  Most probably, it is for the same reason more Americans watch a reality show than a documentary...
                  Actually, it is. In fact, Progressive media be it magazines, newspapers, television, or anything else tends to draw smaller audiences than non-Progressive Leftist media does. The probable pair of reasons are:

                  1. The majority of Americans are not Leftists or Progressives and don't connect with what's presented, or how it's presented.

                  2. Progressive Leftist media comes off as propaganda and negative.

                  The result is that few Americans watch or read stuff that leans Left compared to Centrist or Right leaning media.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                    Actually, it is. In fact, Progressive media be it magazines, newspapers, television, or anything else tends to draw smaller audiences than non-Progressive Leftist media does. The probable pair of reasons are:

                    1. The majority of Americans are not Leftists or Progressives and don't connect with what's presented, or how it's presented.

                    2. Progressive Leftist media comes off as propaganda and negative.

                    The result is that few Americans watch or read stuff that leans Left compared to Centrist or Right leaning media.
                    I edited my previous post and gave an additional reason related to demographics. See above...

                    Hannity is not "center" He is a hack! The fact that he is doing well is linked to what I said about the retired, older (and mostly conservative) people who have the luxury to spend hours in front of their TV to hear the amount of information that a younger, working person can get in a matter of half an hour browsing the internet with a smartphone..
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                    • #55
                      The demographics of this are that Progressives only really exist in any sizable numbers in the larger urban areas on the two coasts and university towns. Outside of that, they don't. I think your reasoning with younger people is wrong. They simply aren't as interested in politics as they are in getting laid or swilling beer, or whatever with their friends.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        The demographics of this are that Progressives only really exist in any sizable numbers in the larger urban areas on the two coasts and university towns. Outside of that, they don't. I think your reasoning with younger people is wrong. They simply aren't as interested in politics as they are in getting laid or swilling beer, or whatever with their friends.
                        I assume we are talking about the people who are interested in politics. And within this group, you have the old and the young. The former by simply their lifestyle can afford to spend more time in front of a TV. This should be one of the reasons why conservative cable news shows are doing better. There are quite a lot of progressives.There were enough to give Hillary the popular vote...
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                        • #57
                          The media is designed to reach a large audience, so they keep things dumb (around an 8th grade writing and intellectual level) and lame (social democracy bias).

                          The mainstream and conservative media is "dumb and dumber". Basically the more you watch, the more facts you may get but at the same time,,, the more idiotic you may become.

                          At this point in time, right and left should be classified as types of mental disorders.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Cult Icon View Post
                            The media is designed to reach a large audience, so they keep things dumb (around an 8th grade writing and intellectual level) and lame (social democracy bias).

                            The mainstream and conservative media is "dumb and dumber". Basically the more you watch, the more facts you may get but at the same time,,, the more idiotic you may become.

                            At this point in time, right and left should be classified as types of mental disorders.
                            I agree, mostly.

                            One thing we all seem to forget is that the people in the media who tell us what happened usually have no real understanding of the issues or what they are talking about.

                            When I hear or read a story in the media about issues in the law, I will often spot all the ignorant errors they are making because it is my field.
                            But when they shift to a subject on which I am not familiar, all too often I will assume that they know what they are talking about.
                            Except they don't
                            They are just as biased and ignorant as any of us, but we assume they know the issue.
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                            • #59
                              If you want respect you have to earn it. The Trump administration is not worthy of either respect or admiration. And Conway is one of the reasons why:

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by pamak View Post

                                I assume we are talking about the people who are interested in politics. And within this group, you have the old and the young. The former by simply their lifestyle can afford to spend more time in front of a TV. This should be one of the reasons why conservative cable news shows are doing better. There are quite a lot of progressives.There were enough to give Hillary the popular vote...
                                You assume wrong. My statement was demarking between Left and The Rest of Us (Center and Right) on where we tend to be demographically in the US. The large urban centers and universities are where you tend to find heavy concentrations of Leftists and Progressives. In terms of overall population, they form about 20 to 25% of the population. Another 20 to 25% will vote more often with the Left than the Center or Right. Thus, Hillary got a slight edge in the popular vote. But, geographically, she lost in about 80% or so of the territory of the US.

                                This is what makes a straight popular vote for national office dangerous. It essentially disenfranchises the majority of the US leaving the country, as a whole, beholden to the whims of large cities on the two coasts. What works for San Francisco or New York City doesn't often work in small town USA. Yet, that's where we'd end up with a tyranny of the mob on direct democracy.

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