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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Well, CBP / ICE has change their asylum rules. Domestic and gang violence are no longer valid reasons for asylum. That means two of the biggest excuses, and that's what those two are, for asylum are all but gone as reasons for granting it. Why are they excuses? Domestic violence should be handled in the person's country of origin. Coming to the US doesn't guarantee you will escape domestic violence.
    That gangs are a problem is just as prevalent here as it is wherever they came from.

    Both of these are ongoing criminal activities in every country on the planet. To accept them as reasons to allow someone to remain in the US is as silly as the person claiming asylum because they've been robbed or pickpocketed repeatedly. "I keep getting robbed back in my country. Please let me come to yours because I won't get robbed as often..." How absurd is that.
    And one of our biggest gang problems is the MS-13 one made of recent "immigrants".
    Then there's the La Raza movement by some of our other "immigrants"(minorities) which is borderline seditious and treasonous.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Well, CBP / ICE has change their asylum rules. Domestic and gang violence are no longer valid reasons for asylum. That means two of the biggest excuses, and that's what those two are, for asylum are all but gone as reasons for granting it. Why are they excuses? Domestic violence should be handled in the person's country of origin. Coming to the US doesn't guarantee you will escape domestic violence.
    That gangs are a problem is just as prevalent here as it is wherever they came from.

    Both of these are ongoing criminal activities in every country on the planet. To accept them as reasons to allow someone to remain in the US is as silly as the person claiming asylum because they've been robbed or pickpocketed repeatedly. "I keep getting robbed back in my country. Please let me come to yours because I won't get robbed as often..." How absurd is that.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Persephone View Post
    A federal judge in CA say DNA testing should be limited to cases in which the relationship can't be proven with documents.This is to speed up reunifications, even though some parents are unfit.

    The ACLU got the same judge to stop deportations after unification for one week,
    to give the families time to file for asylum...or not.
    "Asylum" is not for criminals who sneak over borders in the middle of the night. "Asylum" is what refugees request before entering another nation, and it must be made based on a specific and remedial situation, like a local conflict. This, in turn, mandates a return to the home nation as soon as the problem is resolved.

    The ACLU needs to butt out of criminal activities involving non-citizens, and focus on American citizens who have problems and who need legal intervention, such as those discriminated against because of their age when applying for jobs. Interesting that the ACLU, despite such discrimination being clearly unconstitutional, has never touched a case like that and steadfastly refuses to. Makes one wonder what the ACLU's real agenda is. It's certainly not "constitutional rights".

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  • Persephone
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Justice And DHS Claim Nearly Half Of Children 5 Or Younger Separated At The Border Came With Adults Who Were Criminals Or Not Even Their Parents

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    On Thursday, the Trump administration announced that almost half of the children who were five years old or younger and separated from adults at the U.S. border couldn’t be reunited with them because many of the adults were violent criminals, and some of the adults weren’t even the children’s parents.

    According to the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security, 46 of the 103 children are “ineligible” to be reunited with the adults. The departments added that 11 of the adults have serious criminal histories, some of which include charges for child cruelty, kidnaping, murder, human smuggling, domestic violence and narcotics-related crime. One man is wanted for murder in Guatemala, according to Chris Meekins, Chief of Staff, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response at the Department of Health and Human Services; seven others were “determined not to be a parent” at all, three of whom were found out through DNA testing.
    ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/33010...aign=position2
    A federal judge in CA say DNA testing should be limited to cases in which the relationship can't be proven with documents.This is to speed up reunifications, even though some parents are unfit.

    The ACLU got the same judge to stop deportations after unification for one week,
    to give the families time to file for asylum...or not.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Bottom line...both the original story and the subsequent outrage were pure, unadulterated BS. Might as well be arguing about the vampire population in modern dayTransylvania.

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  • craven
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    Except for one little detail you have overlooked. The statement wasn’t issued by ICE.
    It is from U.S. Customs and Border Protection Executive Assistant Commissioner, Office of Field Operations.
    got me on that one.

    That even says more potentially

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by craven View Post

    because If you were actually thinking of this critically it pretty obvious what I said.

    go back re read it and then go why would I mention it makes a case for possibly getting rid of ice. Read it from the point of view you are the big guy in charge. Maybe ice is doing to much and needs to be restructured. It only a 17 year organization and maybe needs a mission refocus.

    Come on not being able to know how many kids there are and who they go with. Something went wrong with the system.

    And it is a CYA documents if you written or read enough of them you can tell when a govt agency is doing that.
    Except for one little detail you have overlooked. The statement wasn’t issued by ICE.
    It is from U.S. Customs and Border Protection Executive Assistant Commissioner, Office of Field Operations.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
    Justice And DHS Claim Nearly Half Of Children 5 Or Younger Separated At The Border Came With Adults Who Were Criminals Or Not Even Their Parents

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    On Thursday, the Trump administration announced that almost half of the children who were five years old or younger and separated from adults at the U.S. border couldn’t be reunited with them because many of the adults were violent criminals, and some of the adults weren’t even the children’s parents.

    According to the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security, 46 of the 103 children are “ineligible” to be reunited with the adults. The departments added that 11 of the adults have serious criminal histories, some of which include charges for child cruelty, kidnaping, murder, human smuggling, domestic violence and narcotics-related crime. One man is wanted for murder in Guatemala, according to Chris Meekins, Chief of Staff, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response at the Department of Health and Human Services; seven others were “determined not to be a parent” at all, three of whom were found out through DNA testing.
    ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/33010...aign=position2
    And the Left responds...



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  • G David Bock
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    Justice And DHS Claim Nearly Half Of Children 5 Or Younger Separated At The Border Came With Adults Who Were Criminals Or Not Even Their Parents

    ...
    On Thursday, the Trump administration announced that almost half of the children who were five years old or younger and separated from adults at the U.S. border couldn’t be reunited with them because many of the adults were violent criminals, and some of the adults weren’t even the children’s parents.

    According to the Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security, 46 of the 103 children are “ineligible” to be reunited with the adults. The departments added that 11 of the adults have serious criminal histories, some of which include charges for child cruelty, kidnaping, murder, human smuggling, domestic violence and narcotics-related crime. One man is wanted for murder in Guatemala, according to Chris Meekins, Chief of Staff, Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response at the Department of Health and Human Services; seven others were “determined not to be a parent” at all, three of whom were found out through DNA testing.
    ...
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/33010...aign=position2

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  • craven
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

    So you post a critic of the agencies statement on the grounds of CYA.
    State that it is not saying anything that “you guys claim”,
    Then make a nonsensical statement “ I am not for it but even cities why ICE might need to be gotten rid of”

    and when you get a reply bring up blinders.
    because If you were actually thinking of this critically it pretty obvious what I said.

    go back re read it and then go why would I mention it makes a case for possibly getting rid of ice. Read it from the point of view you are the big guy in charge. Maybe ice is doing to much and needs to be restructured. It only a 17 year organization and maybe needs a mission refocus.

    Come on not being able to know how many kids there are and who they go with. Something went wrong with the system.

    And it is a CYA documents if you written or read enough of them you can tell when a govt agency is doing that.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    I've never seen what was the big deal. Case law establishes that you cannot put juveniles in adult facilities or vice versa. Or mix males & females.

    Tens of thousands of legal citizens of this country who are juveniles are currently in US juvenile facilities.

    So to get weepy over non-citizen criminals getting the same treatment is not just stupid, it's hypocrisy.
    And hypocrisy is the religion of the liberals and the anti-establishment types.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    I've never seen what was the big deal. Case law establishes that you cannot put juveniles in adult facilities or vice versa. Or mix males & females.

    Tens of thousands of legal citizens of this country who are juveniles are currently in US juvenile facilities.

    So to get weepy over non-citizen criminals getting the same treatment is not just stupid, it's hypocrisy.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by craven View Post
    as I said you did not pay attention to what your read it right in op

    Blinders keep you from actually understanding it
    So you post a critic of the agencies statement on the grounds of CYA.
    State that it is not saying anything that “you guys claim”,
    Then make a nonsensical statement “ I am not for it but even cities why ICE might need to be gotten rid of”

    and when you get a reply bring up blinders.

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  • craven
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    as I said you did not pay attention to what your read it right in op

    Blinders keep you from actually understanding it

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by craven View Post
    did you guys read your governmentese translation program.

    That statement is not saying what you guys are saying completely. It a cya statement.

    btw not that I am for it but it even cites why ICE might need to be gotten rid of.
    The policy has been in p,ace for years. Furthermore families were separated for violation of specific laws and regulations as outlined in the statement.
    If you can provide evidence to the contrary do so.
    Every country has the right to enforce immigration laws, we are not exceptional in that regard. Unless you live in a country that has none, what is it to you?

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