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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post


    ...
    "Making this forum an echo chamber is clearly a conservative ideal"

    That no conservative has ever called for. Strawman #2...
    You live in an alternative reality. If you open your eyes, you will see that it is conservatives in this forum who run away from a debate by building long ignore lists or who admit that they do not read "leftist" mainstream sources. Such attitude is a clear indication of their desire to live in an echo chamber. There was a lot of agony among many conservative posters when the ignore list was not working and they could not dig their head in the sand. By the way, did they fix it?
    My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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    • #17
      The answer on the OP is YES.
      The ICE has as mission to prevent the invasion of the US by millions of illegal immigranta .The opponents of ICE want the invasion of the US by millions of illegal immigrants .

      Other point : as I expected, very soon the hypocrisy of those who wined because Trump separated the children of illegal immigrants ,has been proved : the separation has stopped and the children remain with their parents . But the usual suspects still whine and say that the children are suffering because their parents are in prison, and they demand that the illegal immigrants should be released and could remain in the US.
      The usual suspects do not care about the children ;they only want that the illegal immigrants have the right to invade the USA .

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pamak View Post

        You live in an alternative reality. If you open your eyes, you will see that it is conservatives in this forum who run away from a debate by building long ignore lists or who admit that they do not read "leftist" mainstream sources. Such attitude is a clear indication of their desire to live in an echo chamber. There was a lot of agony among many conservative posters when the ignore list was not working and they could not dig their head in the sand. By the way, did they fix it?
        Well, that's irony if I ever read any, especially coming from you and your own alternate reality. Geez.
        The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pamak View Post

          You live in an alternative reality. If you open your eyes, you will see that it is conservatives in this forum who run away from a debate by building long ignore lists or who admit that they do not read "leftist" mainstream sources. Such attitude is a clear indication of their desire to live in an echo chamber. There was a lot of agony among many conservative posters when the ignore list was not working and they could not dig their head in the sand. By the way, did they fix it?
          I used the ignore list to avoid the rantings of the deranged among us. I'm not experiencing any "agony" under the new format, just a feeling of relief that I don't live in your twisted world.

          But thanks for caring.
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #20
            Not that I am in favor of abolishing ICE but ICE did not always use to be ICE. Cant remember what caused the change except maybe 9-11

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            • #21
              It isn't ICE that needs to be either abolished or reformed. The president caused this problem in April with his policy and now it appears he is violating the court order to reunite the children with their families.

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              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #22
                Doesn't look like it to me. The instruction clearly states that you can depart America with your children. They aren't being kept from you. It is simply stating that you WILL be leaving one way or the other if here illegally.

                Trump isn't doing anything. If the illegal departs without their children, it is because THEY, not Trump, chose to do so. And if they did make that choice then honestly those kids need better parents anyway.
                A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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                • #23
                  Democrats’ 2018 Slogan Is A Godsend For Republicans

                  Ignorance, lawlessness, and open borders
                  ...
                  Democrats love frivolous slogans. The party that brought us “Bush Lied, People Died” (he didn't) to “No War For Oil” (there wasn't) has now delivered Republicans an election year boon with just two simple words: “Abolish ICE.” Democrats ranging from Statue of Liberty scaling activists to congressional candidates to bona fide U.S. senators have adopted the motto, which demands the dissolution of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. The embrace of “Abolish ICE” as a campaign trail motto exposes Democrats as the party of ignorance, lawlessness, and open borders. All three are big losers with the American people, and Republicans should troll Democrats into shouting, “Abolish ICE!” at every turn.

                  ICE, which stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, is an agency within the Department of Homeland Security. Democrats have recently targeted the agency for separating illegal alien families at the U.S. border with Mexico. While the family separation policy has existed since 1997 and was robustly enforced at various points during the Obama administration with nary a peep from Democrats, the great irony is that it isn't ICE separating families at the border. Rather, it’s up to Customs and Border Protection, which operates Border Patrol, to arrest foreign nationals crossing the southern border illegally. Democrats calls to “abolish ICE” for separating families at the border illustrate their ignorance of the very laws they wish to ignore.

                  But while Democrats are frequently wrong, they’re never in doubt. They may not know what ICE does, but their demand to abolish it highlights their increasing lawlessness. In recent weeks, a major Democrat lawmaker has openly called for mob terror against Republican officials. Left-wing commentators and activists within such movements as Black Lives Matter have suggested abolishing the police—whatever that means. The New York Democratic Socialists of America, of which Democrat congressional nominee Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a member, recently declared, “Abolish ICE. Abolish prisons. Abolish cash bail. Abolish borders.” By taking aim at law enforcement per se, Democrats offer a vision of America governed not by duly enacted law passed by representative institutions but rather a country governed by the caprices and prejudices of men, popular sovereignty be damned.
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                  https://www.dailywire.com/news/32692...hael-j-knowles
                  TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pamak View Post

                    You live in an alternative reality. If you open your eyes, you will see that it is conservatives in this forum who run away from a debate by building long ignore lists or who admit that they do not read "leftist" mainstream sources. Such attitude is a clear indication of their desire to live in an echo chamber. There was a lot of agony among many conservative posters when the ignore list was not working and they could not dig their head in the sand. By the way, did they fix it?
                    Wow....more about the ignore function. Does it upset you that much that when you are jumping up and down, screaming LOOK AT ME!!!!!! that some ignore you?

                    ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

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                    • #25
                      I really don't mind not having a iggy feature. I just ignore stupid comments. I'm over it.
                      Credo quia absurdum.


                      Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Massena View Post

                        Stupidity, ineptitude in government service, criminal activity, and ignorance should be opposed. That you support it by supporting Trump without question says much more about you than it does about those who criticize Trump. You're merely a dupe.
                        I would say that the FBI has a LOT of that and has had that for years. I'm not Anti-FBI....I'm pro Cleaning House.
                        Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post

                          Wow....more about the ignore function. Does it upset you that much that when you are jumping up and down, screaming LOOK AT ME!!!!!! that some ignore you?
                          Thank you for proving my point genius!
                          My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                            I really don't mind not having a iggy feature. I just ignore stupid comments. I'm over it.
                            When people from your group ignore most of the comments from the opposition, it shows you desire to hear only the comments that align with your beliefs. This is the definition of echo-chamber. And no, this is not just about the ignore list. It is also about the dismissing of all supposedly "fake news" links from the MAINSTREAM left sources.
                            My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                            • #29
                              What I find interesting is the pro trump side has not even considered if maybe the dems are right and ICE does need to abolished and redone or tweaked.

                              ICE is less than 18 years old and at it core was an anti terror creation.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pamak View Post

                                Thank you for proving my point genius!
                                Huh? Answer the question.

                                You're special, aren't you? In the short yellow bus kind of way.
                                ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

                                BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

                                BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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