First lady’s ‘I don’t care’ jacket causes a stir; Trump tweets response

[G David Bock]

Cowards? You've sat here and condemned the left for attacking right wing extremists, such as what happened in Charlottesville. When people are standing up to confront hatred, racism, bigotry and fascism where are you standing? My guess . . . on the other side calling them race traitors.

... ACLU's Diminishing Interest In Free Speech Marks A Foreboding Shift in American Culture

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This week, an internal ACLU memo showed that the famed civil rights organization was making protection of the First Amendment a secondary concern, balancing it instead with issues of “racial justice, reproductive freedom, or a myriad of other rights, where the content of the speech we seek to protect conflicts with our policies on those matters, and/or otherwise is directed at menacing vulnerable groups of individuals.”

This is stunning language. This is the group that once defended Nazis marching in Skokie, Ill., under the terms of the First Amendment, and won. The ACLU website brags, “The notoriety of the case caused some ACLU members to resign, but to many others the case has come to represent the ACLU's unwavering commitment to principle.” Yet, now the ACLU would presumably decline the case, stating that it might be too damaging to their other social justice priorities.

The ACLU even announced that if a First Amendment speaker were to carry a gun, they would preemptively refrain from defending that speaker. Former board member Wendy Kaminer writes in the pages of the Wall Street Journal, “The speech-case guidelines reflect a demotion of free speech in the ACLU’s hierarchy of values … Faced with perceived conflicts between freedom of speech and ‘progress toward equality,’ the ACLU is likely to choose equality. If the Supreme Court adopted the ACLU's balancing test, it would greatly expand government power to restrict speech.”

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http://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rig...oding-shift-in

[Darth Holliday]

Race-traitor is a label bandied about too frequently on the right. Generally any act of unity or care towards anyone non-white is enough to label someone as a race-traitor.




These are the type of people being coddled by the right, the type of people we're all told to ignore. Despite them having a direct negative impact on our society and communities. So why does the right tell us to ignore groups that want to start a race war while going out of their way to highlight every issue among Hispanics, Muslims and blacks?

A: If they're not impacted, they don't care. At best.

I'm not sure who is telling you to ignore who....but I am in your A group...I am not impacted (yet) and I don't care...There is a storm coming from within our Republic...Im sure I wont be here to see it, (hope not)...There is Antifa who I guess is accepted, Black Lives Matter, accepted, Marxism, accepted, even the LBTQEJOIEJPOIEJB group starting to yell at their Chick-Fil-A sandwiches again after six years...Good thing the left have given up their firearms...

Even your signature is an attempt to label (dehumanize) and start a fight....This is a history forum, you do know who and what the Nazis were, stop with the BS rhetoric...

[TactiKill J.]

You admit to only being concerned with one racial group in America, which is divisive, yet consider my signature rhetoric. You're right though, if we want to be technical then it should read "neo-nazis". If I remember correctly, we can only fit but so many characters in our signature and I was having trouble getting everything in.

I believe it was a Fox host who recently said, "it's not our children Trump is doing this to" in response to how detained Hispanic children are being treated. Again, same mentality, if it's not about me, it doesn't matter. To a liberal it doesn't make a difference who the kids are, to a conservative as long as whites aren't being affected it can be ignored. This mentality prohibits unity and yes does suggest people who would express such sentiments are colder and more heartless than others.

I can't change you, I don't want to change you so there's no point in "starting a fight". But, that doesn't mean I shouldn't express the truth. The right has come to the defense of neo Nazi protesters (advocates of race war), yet vehemently attack Islam and Muslims. Conservatives don't care about blacks protesting against racial inequality, yet will talk about using military force in SA in order to protect white farmers against racial inequality. These are facts, not rhetoric and if exposing them is dehumanizing then it really speaks to how low the right has sunk.

[American87]

You admit to only being concerned with one racial group in America, which is divisive, yet consider my signature rhetoric. You're right though, if we want to be technical then it should read "neo-nazis". If I remember correctly, we can only fit but so many characters in our signature and I was having trouble getting everything in.

I believe it was a Fox host who recently said, "it's not our children Trump is doing this to" in response to how detained Hispanic children are being treated. Again, same mentality, if it's not about me, it doesn't matter. To a liberal it doesn't make a difference who the kids are, to a conservative as long as whites aren't being affected it can be ignored. This mentality prohibits unity and yes does suggest people who would express such sentiments are colder and more heartless than others.

I can't change you, I don't want to change you so there's no point in "starting a fight". But, that doesn't mean I shouldn't express the truth. The right has come to the defense of neo Nazi protesters (advocates of race war), yet vehemently attack Islam and Muslims. Conservatives don't care about blacks protesting against racial inequality, yet will talk about using military force in SA in order to protect white farmers against racial inequality. These are facts, not rhetoric and if exposing them is dehumanizing then it really speaks to how low the right has sunk.

The black South African government decided a few months ago to confiscate all land owned by white people, without compensation. If Conservatives were as racist and white supremacist as you're arguing, then they definitely would've made talking points about this. But they haven't, because they're not.

Illegal immigrants are criminals, many of them felons. Many of them even send their kids to migrate across Mexico and give their daughters Plan B because they know they're going to get raped. Why would you want people like that in our country? Probably because they're not white. At any event, if an American citizen sent their child to walk across country they would be arrested, and yes, the child would probably be taken from the parent and placed with child services.

[Darth Holliday]

You admit to only being concerned with one racial group in America, which is divisive, yet consider my signature rhetoric. You're right though, if we want to be technical then it should read "neo-nazis". If I remember correctly, we can only fit but so many characters in our signature and I was having trouble getting everything in.

I believe it was a Fox host who recently said, "it's not our children Trump is doing this to" in response to how detained Hispanic children are being treated. Again, same mentality, if it's not about me, it doesn't matter. To a liberal it doesn't make a difference who the kids are, to a conservative as long as whites aren't being affected it can be ignored. This mentality prohibits unity and yes does suggest people who would express such sentiments are colder and more heartless than others.

I can't change you, I don't want to change you so there's no point in "starting a fight". But, that doesn't mean I shouldn't express the truth. The right has come to the defense of neo Nazi protesters (advocates of race war), yet vehemently attack Islam and Muslims. Conservatives don't care about blacks protesting against racial inequality, yet will talk about using military force in SA in order to protect white farmers against racial inequality. These are facts, not rhetoric and if exposing them is dehumanizing then it really speaks to how low the right has sunk.

Again, anyone who disagrees with the left is evil, sub human..You may get what you wish for..

[Arnold J Rimmer]

I like this new Ignore feature, when it works. All the racists and bigots are invisible.

[TactiKill J.]

Again, anyone who disagrees with the left is evil, sub human..You may get what you wish for..

How would you describe someone that's not interested in anything or anyone outside of their own conceived group or self? This is less about politics and more about character.

[Darth Holliday]

I like this new Ignore feature, when it works. All the racists and bigots are invisible.

They keep re-appearing after a day or so....except one..

[TactiKill J.]

There are also other conservative posters who have raised the prospect of civil war or racial war because liberals are saying mean things to them (ie the truth). But I guess it's not PC to refer to people who would respond that way as evil. What we have is a perfect example of a group who can dish it out but can't take it.

[Trung Si]

Looking forward her visit to a rape crisis centre with 'deal with it' written on it......

It was a silly, tone deaf clothes choice.

Moderators! why doesn't my Ignore List work on this new and improved Site? to spare me from Drive By Posts directed at Americans, just because they don't like my Country, I know that they have the right to their opinions, but don't I have the right not to have to listen to them?

[Snowshoveler]

Moderators! why doesn't my Ignore List work on this new and improved Site? to spare me from Drive By Posts directed at Americans, just because they don't like my Country, I know that they have the right to their opinions, but don't I have the right not to have to listen to them?

No kidding it's been 4 weeks now someone doesn't know what they're doing and they need to find someone who does to fix things.

[Snowshoveler]

Again, anyone who disagrees with the left is evil, sub human..You may get what you wish for..

Best thing would be to put it on ignore it craves attention by telling lies,race baiting and it's rabid racist rants.

[Stonewall_Jack]

No they don't. They don't call out the blatant racism in the Democrat party. The DNC is headed by a racist now (Thomas Perez. Their second person in that CoC was a follower of Louis Farrakhan. How much more blatantly racist can you get? There are out and out Socialists, and people who would burn the Constitution in a nanosecond in the Democrat party now.

How much more "anti-American" can you get?

Yes, Trump is an @$$. He talks smack all the time. That's nothing compared to the actions the Democrat party takes. They want racism. They want class warfare. They celebrate bigots in their party. So, before they go throwing stones they need to take a look in the mirror and recognize the monsters they themselves are.

It is true some Democrats push equality to far going into the zone of supporting unequal views. But these views do not apply to top Democrats including Perez. Your thinking of those few minority dems and liberals like the one Democratic Congress lady whom have called for Trump to be assassinated. But merely supporting BLM, supporting other minorities does not mean Perez is a bigot.

The Louis Farrakhan connection now is quite meaningless, as Trumps own spiritual advisor(Pastor Jeffress) has openly said Jews will go to hell, that Mormons follow a cult...so thats the same type of language coming from both sides just that for example Obama unlike Trump disowned his bigoted spiritual (Rev Wright)advisor while Trump still works with Pastor Jeffress.

But we also have to look at the grand picture. Trumps top team such as Melanie and Corey Lewandowski have recently committed outlandish actions wrt the jacket and the womp womp comment. And getting back to dems vs gop, some of the dems might be to friendly to minorities putting blacks over whites a view btw which presents no threat our country will always be Christian majority but some of the GOP want you to belive otherwise hyping up fear of the Mexican and the African both of whom come from very honorable family valued backgrounds.


Its some of the GOP that totally over exaggerate those few Dems whom favor minorites over white Christians. Keep in mind that most black folk are Christians themselves. Its the GOP that have the issue of having top leadership whom are openly bigoted. The Dems do not have bigots in the mainstream but the GOP does. Now also compare what liberals and conservatives have to say. Just look at guys like AJR also, he quoted a bigoted post here against Muslims and still tried to claim that its the liberals that are the problem, that is an action AJR consistently engages in he guns for liberals but blasts Muslims and even black kids at times remember the little thug comment AJR made about a young black kid shot at for knocking on someones door asking for directions(AJR you now have the chance to apologize for that comment). Now Im sure AJR is a good guy there is good in everyone... hopefully the man can be more open minded , but you saw it with your own eyes AJRS views are polar opposite of those guys like Anarchists whom care to much to the point of doing the wrong thing. Also AJRS views are somewhat agreed with by mainstream GOP but mainstream Dems do not support the anarchists. That is the difference today between the GOP and Dem party, both groups have issues but the GOP issues are greater.

[Trung Si]

I like this new Ignore feature, when it works. All the racists and bigots are invisible.

The problem is that it doesn't work.

[Stonewall_Jack]

Moderators! why doesn't my Ignore List work on this new and improved Site? to spare me from Drive By Posts directed at Americans, just because they don't like my Country, I know that they have the right to their opinions, but don't I have the right not to have to listen to them?

Its just words its not a big deal. Im not bothered by you and AJRs personal insults directed at me. Also If you cant take it dont dish it out. But fwiw exactly where were you attacked, probably did not even happen did it? Where is the anti American posts?

Your posting those anti Muslim pictures when American Muslims have served for this country in the workforce and on the battlefield.