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  • #31
    Originally posted by Salinator View Post
    Yet, you have yet to call anyone that displays flippant messages against anything Trump or outright attacks on twitter, facebook, MSM a slime ball. You are just shown that you are yourself a classless hate-driven political hack without any sensitivity nor tact at discussion. People such as yourself are only interested in divide, and throwing dirt or feces and then scream and claim inequality.
    Trump is a grown man. Technically anyway. To wear that jacket and display that message about children living in camps is something entirely different, something only a slimeball would do.
    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin

    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by American87 View Post

      Being an American and voting for Hillary was a silly choice. Just stand back while Trump fixes the world. Maybe take the time to find a new hobby.
      By the time "Trump fixes the world" the America you know will have disappeared and a version of South America will be running your country where the 1% have it all and the rest of you would like some but the 1%ers will not let you have it or get anywhere near the palace gates....take a look at Brazil or any other S American country....that's your future looking at you....he is slowly eating away at your Constution but most of you are still blaming Hillary/Obama for all your ills.....the other day there was a mention by Trump that Eisenhower was to blame for some of your problems.....god how far back does this man go to blame others for problems caused by him...….God!! help American 101..you will need it.

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      • #33
        She is entitled to her opinion the same as the rest of America, and given how contemptibly she has been treated by the media, I think she's right on target.

        The media worshipped First Big Mama - who hated America - like she was a superstar, so frankly the media has ZERO credibility any longer about anything.

        Certainly, our current First Lady is classier than anyone in a long time.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
          ...our current First Lady is classier than anyone in a long time...
          I thought so myself, until she showed up in the jacket.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bow View Post

            By the time "Trump fixes the world" the America you know will have disappeared and a version of South America will be running your country where the 1% have it all and the rest of you would like some but the 1%ers will not let you have it or get anywhere near the palace gates....take a look at Brazil or any other S American country....that's your future looking at you....he is slowly eating away at your Constution but most of you are still blaming Hillary/Obama for all your ills.....the other day there was a mention by Trump that Eisenhower was to blame for some of your problems.....god how far back does this man go to blame others for problems caused by him...….God!! help American 101..you will need it.
            What you described was life under Democrats-mass poverty with a forecast of dictatorship. Like Venezuela. At least that’s the path Barack Hussein Obama had us on.
            "It is a fine fox chase, my boys"

            "It is well that war is so terrible-we would grow too fond of it"

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            • #36
              Yeah, I thought that's what the whole "occupy" movement and all the anarchists in the streets at election time were railing against. Weren't theyall saying that all along...before Trump became Potus?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bow View Post

                By the time "Trump fixes the world" the America you know will have disappeared and a version of South America will be running your country where the 1% have it all and the rest of you would like some but the 1%ers will not let you have it or get anywhere near the palace gates....take a look at Brazil or any other S American country....that's your future looking at you....he is slowly eating away at your Constution but most of you are still blaming Hillary/Obama for all your ills.....the other day there was a mention by Trump that Eisenhower was to blame for some of your problems.....god how far back does this man go to blame others for problems caused by him...….God!! help American 101..you will need it.
                USA is substantially different from the rest of the Americas, and the world for that matter. Our social and governmental structure a bit more solid than you present. Would seem you little know or understand our Constitution and how it works, so for your education (and others), here is a thread I just started;

                USA Constitution

                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Bow View Post

                  By the time "Trump fixes the world" the America you know will have disappeared and a version of South America will be running your country where the 1% have it all and the rest of you would like some but the 1%ers will not let you have it or get anywhere near the palace gates....take a look at Brazil or any other S American country....that's your future looking at you....he is slowly eating away at your Constution but most of you are still blaming Hillary/Obama for all your ills.....the other day there was a mention by Trump that Eisenhower was to blame for some of your problems.....god how far back does this man go to blame others for problems caused by him...….God!! help American 101..you will need it.
                  (Couldn't get the underline/link function to not work, so continuing here.)

                  World history shows that "the 1%" has been a factor of control and wealth domination through out most of human history, in nearly every culture and civilization until the last couple of decades. The USA leading the tend away from such an arrangement. If this effort "collapses", not only Canada (whose economy and lifestyles are closely connected to the USA's) but the rest of the world tumbles with us.

                  There is a carry over from prior Administrations. Not just the Fiscal Budget with several months of play-out when a new POTUS is inaugurated, but also the Laws and Policies of the prior, and often previous administrations which still apply and are in effect unless changed or altered by the new one. Duh! FWIW, BHO is about the closest think we've had to a "Manchurian Candidate" to date;
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manchurian_Candidate

                  In this newer age it becomes more clear that we are all not only downwind and downstream of each other, but also upwind and upstream in terms of our actions and effects. Be careful what you wish for, you're in the same lifeboat as the USA and the rest of us on this blue marble.
                  TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                  • #39
                    This is strategical. This and the head of DHS going to that Mexican restaurant and getting booed out. Push the buttons, let the radical elements and the media show their colors, and continue to build on the ground support in the population. More and more centrist, and even left-leaning people, are admitting the lunacy and hypocrisy of the left's position. I think they're feeding that.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Salinator View Post

                      More TDS. Why the hell would she visit a rape crisis center with a "deal with it" whatever except out of your demented imagination? Why do you make up such nonsense just to just to prove how stupid and politically biased one can be?
                      ​​I thought calling people demented , stupid and biased on this forum was against the rules......

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
                        Perhaps more so then any recent event, this one set off alarm bells. The First Lady Melania Trump has recently donned a jacket which says in a sort of graffiti type approach "I REALLY DONT CARE DO U?"



                        WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump says his wife, Melania, was taking a dig at the news media Thursday when she wore a jacket that read, “I really don’t care, do u?” as she traveled to and from a facility housing migrant children separated from their parents.

                        The jacket caused a commotion on social media, which Trump responded to by tweet.

                        He says the slogan “written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media,” adding, “Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!”



                        https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/fi...t-care-jacket/

                        Mrs Trump donned the jacket while boarding a plane to visit one of those camps we have in our country where immigrant children are being held separated from their parents.

                        I dont like how our country operates in a # of ways, this wont cut it. By God the glory days of our country will come back though. This is inexcusable if it was an attack against the media the Jacket should say so. Great men and women of European history stood for honor, this jacket is unacceptable. What Melania has done is something I have never seen a First Lady engage in. Im not here to judge anyone but American leadership should care about the world. American leadership should care in general. This type of message by the current first lady is unheard of in our great history.
                        As Trump's tweet suggested, this was a message to the MSM, and possible bait for the hyperbolic distortions such as we see in this OP.
                        Ironically, one of those MSMs comes close to "getting it" as the following excerpts will show;
                        ...
                        She’s right, of course. It wasn'’t hidden. It was literally written on the first lady’s back. The question is: Who was the intended audience?

                        The assumption implicit in the outrage is that the message was meant for those Mrs. Trump was meeting. But here’s the thing: The first lady has had some experience with the attention paid when she boards planes.

                        She knows everyone is going to be watching. Remember back in August 2017 when she walked across the tarmac at Joint Base Andrews in sky-high Manolo stilettos during the Texas flood crisis? At that time, the shoes seemed to symbolize her enormous remove from the trauma, and she became the target of great opprobrium for the choice.

                        She is well aware that nothing a first lady wears is “just” an anything, especially nothing she wears to a public event in which she remains silent, but knows she will be photographed — as her experience with the high heels to Texas would have taught her (and taught her advisers).
                        ...
                        And then there’s the fact that Mrs. Trump has never been one to shy away from coding pointed, not necessarily, popular communications into her wardrobe. She did, after all, wear a white trouser suit — the uniform of the Hillary Clinton-led opposition — to her husband’s first State of the Union address.

                        All of which suggests there is very little chance she did not know what she was doing with that “I really don’t care” coat. (Zara declined to comment.)

                        So who was the target of that not-so-hidden message? That the first lady had shed the jacket by the time she disembarked in Texas may indicate it was not, in fact, the families at the heart of the immigration issue. Besides, there are numerous alternative possibilities, when you start to think about it.
                        ...
                        Or maybe, just maybe, it was a message for those of us who like to read messages into her clothes. One that said, “I’m going to wear whatever I want and I don’t care what you think about it.” After all, she wore the jacket again deplaning later at Andrews — wore it unapologetically knowing all the hoo-ha it had caused, the confusion and umbrage, the distraction from what she said was her core message of compassion. Wore it as if to give direct proof to the words on her back. That would be kind of meta.

                        Mrs. Trump often seems to be using her clothes as a sort of private diary, yet one that is parsed by millions who don’t have the rest of the text. Between intention and analysis an enormous gulf can exist. It’s a risky approach to her role.
                        ...
                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...TiD?li=BBnbfcL

                        So ... she is constantly photographed and commented upon when in public based upon what she wears, so this time she wore something to "rattle the cage" of her detractors.

                        Fact that she wasn't wearing the coat when actually visiting the detention center, only when deplaning and later re-boarding, those frequent occasions where the popperatzy will photo and make snarky, strongly suggests a message to the MSM. And a possible intent to let her critics foam at the mouth in their misdirection.
                        TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                        • #42
                          Underscoring the media/MSM obsession with Melania's fashion choices/statements;

                          Melania Trump's Most Controversial Fashion Moments
                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/...Bnb7Kz#image=1
                          TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post

                            Trump is a grown man. Technically anyway. To wear that jacket and display that message about children living in camps is something entirely different, something only a slimeball would do.
                            The message, as clearly stated many times, was directed at the media. You're letting your TDS get the better of you.
                            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                              Underscoring the media/MSM obsession with Melania's fashion choices/statements;

                              Melania Trump's Most Controversial Fashion Moments
                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/...Bnb7Kz#image=1
                              Not to mention the obsession of certain forum members over anything "Trumpish".
                              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                She is entitled to her opinion the same as the rest of America, and given how contemptibly she has been treated by the media, I think she's right on target.

                                The media worshipped First Big Mama - who hated America - like she was a superstar, so frankly the media has ZERO credibility any longer about anything.

                                Certainly, our current First Lady is classier than anyone in a long time.
                                Most recent and comparable in "classy" being Jackie Kennedy(Onassis). However, Jackie appeared in an era where attractive, fashionable "First Ladies" had been rare and her looks, intelligence and wit were something not seen in the White House for some time prior. She seems to have set a standard, a high bar, difficult for many after her to match.*

                                In the past century though, the First Lady has at times taken on a role and influence that makes her a defacto "Vice-President", often out-shinning the actual VP. Eleanor Roosevelt is one example that comes readily to mind and memory as a First Lady not content to be a homebody and window dressing at State functions and dinners. In many ways she became FDR's extension, understandable given his health and traveling issues (polio).

                                * = Back about the mid 1980's I had an opportunity to be an extra in a for TV movie which was filming some scenes here in the Seattle area. It was focused on Jacqueline Kennedy and these scenes were shot at Boeing Field where a 707 had been painted on one side to represent Air Force One of the JFK years. One of the scenes was the trip to Europe where Air Force One arrives at Paris and the crowd (we extras) at the airport is chanting: "Jackie! Jackie! Jackie! ...". Later at a speech, JKF quipped something to the paraphrase: " For those here whom don't know me, I'm the guy who accompanied Jackie here."

                                BTW, a rather interesting insight into movie/film production that experience was.
                                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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