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  • craven
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    Yes I know that. Clearly stated in text I excerpted from the website.
    The "OPM" in the URL is for Office of Personnel Management, my comment on other use of OPM was regarding generic acronym usage of everyday (American) English.
    got ya but some people may not of known that.

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  • craven
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    As for the campaign itself...



    https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind....view&cpid=659

    And, as the CFC grows, more and more government workers are opting out.

    https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2016/...lower-returns/
    yeah I wouldn't read much into that. Its just a vehicle for donations. Could be just a sign of the times.

    When I last did it I donating money was still a pain

    Now it just a few clicks.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by craven View Post

    no it the money of the person donating. ie I pick a charity and it gets deducted from my pay check to go to a charity I pick.
    Yes I know that. Clearly stated in text I excerpted from the website.
    The "OPM" in the URL is for Office of Personnel Management, my comment on other use of OPM was regarding generic acronym usage of everyday (American) English.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    As for the campaign itself...

    While the campaign to increase generosity should be commended, questions have arisen regarding the effectiveness of its oversight of the participating charities. In 2006, federal investigators released a report revealing that 6% of the charities in the program owed back payroll taxes and several engaged in criminal activity. Officials from the campaign have said that their hands are tied, citing a federal law that prevents them from screening charities for federal tax compliance. Perhaps even more disturbing was that the federal investigators were able to enroll a fake charity. Campaign officials claim that they’ve since taken steps to guarantee that all participating charities are actually tax-exempt charities recognized by the IRS.

    If campaign officials had conducted appropriate due diligence, or if the investigators had probed a little further, federal employees would have found out that many of the charities the government recommends supporting are in poor fiscal health. We examined the 2,045 national and international charities participating in the CFC (there are thousands more that participate in hundreds of local campaigns). Our investigation revealed that 817 are rated by Charity Navigator and that 30% of those fail to earn a good rating. Specifically, two charities have a 0-star, ‘exceptionally poor’ rating, 69 have a 1-star, ‘poor’ rating, and 176 have a 2-star, ‘needs improvement’ rating.
    https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind....view&cpid=659

    And, as the CFC grows, more and more government workers are opting out.

    https://nonprofitquarterly.org/2016/...lower-returns/

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by craven View Post

    you do know no one in the federal govt decides who gets money other than the person donating.
    Not if you don't designate what organization gets the money, which is what most donors do... The undesignated money is divided among all of the agencies participating. So, if you don't designate your pennies go to the SPLC and PITA too, among the zillion charities on the list.

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  • craven
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    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

    For those like me that are a bit curious;
    Combined Federal Campaign
    ...
    The mission of the CFC is to promote and support philanthropy through a program that is employee focused, cost-efficient, and effective in providing all federal employees the opportunity to improve the quality of life for all.

    CFC is the world's largest and most successful annual workplace charity campaign, with almost 200 CFC campaigns throughout the country and overseas raising millions of dollars each year. Pledges made by Federal civilian, postal and military donors during the campaign season (September 1st to December 15th) support eligible non-profit organizations that provide health and human service benefits throughout the world. The Director of OPM has designated responsibility for day-to-day management of the program and to its CFC office.
    ...
    The CFC today is known to be the most inclusive workplace giving campaign in the world with the number of participating charities estimated at over 20,000 nonprofit charitable organizations worldwide. The charities supported through the CFC range from nascent community groups to large, well-known charities.

    Partnerships with nonprofit organizations are a core part of the CFC structure. In each of the 320 CFC areas throughout the country, local and national nonprofit organizations collaborate closely with committees of volunteer Federal employees to design marketing strategies for the campaign and to process the receipt and distribution of Federal employee contributions to the charities they choose.

    CFC also directly involves participating nonprofit organization leaders in the design of new policies and programs that are shaping the future of the Combined Federal Campaign. These partnerships are promoting greater direct giving from Federal employees to local and national nonprofits while helping nonprofit organizations use these contributions to leverage financial resources from other sources.

    CFC campaigns are delineated geographically along county lines. While the structure of the campaign and parameters of responsibility established in the early 1980's remains essentially the same, an emerging trend is for greater collaboration among campaigns through the merging of local campaign operations and other arrangements. Each campaign is managed by a volunteer group of Federal employees who work with experienced nonprofit executives in their communities to generate contributions and distribute them to eligible charities. This partnership provides an opportunity for Federal workers to become involved in their communities and adds great value to the Combined Federal Campaign for both Federal employees and the participating nonprofit organizations.

    The increase in the number of participating charities over the past decade has been great. The number of participating national Federations increased from 3 to 27 and the number of national and international charities has grown to over 1,600. Many federations also operate a network of local affiliated federations which participate in the CFC locally.

    Today, the vast majority (75%) of the charities that participate in the campaign as national organizations do so as members of national Federations. While it is estimated that the total number of CFC participating charities in the country exceeded 20,000 in 2004, national organizations and Federations alone received over 45% of the $256 million recorded in campaign contributions in 2004.
    ...
    https://www.opm.gov/combined-federal-campaign/

    "OPM" sometimes used with meaning: "Other People's Money", some what fitting in context of Government activities.
    NOTE: Not all "non-profit"s are charities, nor as non-political or non-partisan as they should be per charter and 'law'.
    no it the money of the person donating. ie I pick a charity and it gets deducted from my pay check to go to a charity I pick.

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  • craven
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    That's because they and lots and lots of other dubious and downright illegitimate charities and non-profits, get on the federal government Combined Federal Campaign and rake in the dough indirectly. All anyone has to do is look at the list of "charities" that goes on like a telephone directory, to find ones they think aren't only undeserving but that probably shouldn't even be in the campaign at all. Yet, there they are.
    you do know no one in the federal govt decides who gets money other than the person donating.

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  • G David Bock
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    That's because they and lots and lots of other dubious and downright illegitimate charities and non-profits, get on the federal government Combined Federal Campaign and rake in the dough indirectly. All anyone has to do is look at the list of "charities" that goes on like a telephone directory, to find ones they think aren't only undeserving but that probably shouldn't even be in the campaign at all. Yet, there they are.
    For those like me that are a bit curious;
    Combined Federal Campaign
    ...
    The mission of the CFC is to promote and support philanthropy through a program that is employee focused, cost-efficient, and effective in providing all federal employees the opportunity to improve the quality of life for all.

    CFC is the world's largest and most successful annual workplace charity campaign, with almost 200 CFC campaigns throughout the country and overseas raising millions of dollars each year. Pledges made by Federal civilian, postal and military donors during the campaign season (September 1st to December 15th) support eligible non-profit organizations that provide health and human service benefits throughout the world. The Director of OPM has designated responsibility for day-to-day management of the program and to its CFC office.
    ...
    The CFC today is known to be the most inclusive workplace giving campaign in the world with the number of participating charities estimated at over 20,000 nonprofit charitable organizations worldwide. The charities supported through the CFC range from nascent community groups to large, well-known charities.

    Partnerships with nonprofit organizations are a core part of the CFC structure. In each of the 320 CFC areas throughout the country, local and national nonprofit organizations collaborate closely with committees of volunteer Federal employees to design marketing strategies for the campaign and to process the receipt and distribution of Federal employee contributions to the charities they choose.

    CFC also directly involves participating nonprofit organization leaders in the design of new policies and programs that are shaping the future of the Combined Federal Campaign. These partnerships are promoting greater direct giving from Federal employees to local and national nonprofits while helping nonprofit organizations use these contributions to leverage financial resources from other sources.

    CFC campaigns are delineated geographically along county lines. While the structure of the campaign and parameters of responsibility established in the early 1980's remains essentially the same, an emerging trend is for greater collaboration among campaigns through the merging of local campaign operations and other arrangements. Each campaign is managed by a volunteer group of Federal employees who work with experienced nonprofit executives in their communities to generate contributions and distribute them to eligible charities. This partnership provides an opportunity for Federal workers to become involved in their communities and adds great value to the Combined Federal Campaign for both Federal employees and the participating nonprofit organizations.

    The increase in the number of participating charities over the past decade has been great. The number of participating national Federations increased from 3 to 27 and the number of national and international charities has grown to over 1,600. Many federations also operate a network of local affiliated federations which participate in the CFC locally.

    Today, the vast majority (75%) of the charities that participate in the campaign as national organizations do so as members of national Federations. While it is estimated that the total number of CFC participating charities in the country exceeded 20,000 in 2004, national organizations and Federations alone received over 45% of the $256 million recorded in campaign contributions in 2004.
    ...
    https://www.opm.gov/combined-federal-campaign/

    "OPM" sometimes used with meaning: "Other People's Money", some what fitting in context of Government activities.
    NOTE: Not all "non-profit"s are charities, nor as non-political or non-partisan as they should be per charter and 'law'.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Darth Holliday View Post
    They brought in 135 million in the last two years, (Liberal hate) has been good to them....
    That's because they and lots and lots of other dubious and downright illegitimate charities and non-profits, get on the federal government Combined Federal Campaign and rake in the dough indirectly. All anyone has to do is look at the list of "charities" that goes on like a telephone directory, to find ones they think aren't only undeserving but that probably shouldn't even be in the campaign at all. Yet, there they are.

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  • Darth Holliday
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    They brought in 135 million in the last two years, (Liberal hate) has been good to them....

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  • wolfhnd
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    This is what happens when idealism is incorporated.

    There is a need for people at the bottom of the social hierarchy to be represented by less conservative organizations. Jordan Peterson points out the inconvenient truth that the left believes anyone can be trained to have a decent job and climb out of poverty given enough government help and the right believe that there is a job for everyone that will move them up the social hierarchy if they are not lazy. Both points of views are flawed. Many people are trapped near the bottom and there interests must be addressed in the courts on a regular basis. The bottom rung of the social economic spectrum have historically been abused.

    Today race, gender, and poverty are exploited for profit and political ends. It isn't the first time as political machines such as Pendergrass in Kansas City and Daily in Chicago mastered the process long before the current crop emerged. The corruption just has a slightly different method and ends.

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  • G David Bock
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    47 Groups Weighing SPLC Lawsuit Warn 'Editors, CEOs': 'You Are Complicit' in Hate Group 'Defamation'

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/47-grou...up-defamation/

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    I hope it works. The SPLC is a hate monger group.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by craven View Post
    Interesting although I agree with some of this we could see this spiral out of control in the long run.

    Does Rush Limbaugh get covered under this or how about the guys who put out the fake pizza story about Hillary

    or where do honest dissagreements about facts come in
    There's a difference. Limbaugh is a political opinion talk show host. So, he can talk smack about people pretty much all he wants. The SPLC makes claims about the accuracy of their list and presents it not as opinion, but factual and as a corporate entity. The problem with that is, now they must be able to conclusively prove their statements are indeed factual and accurate. Since much of what they present is opinion, they're hit.

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  • craven
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    Interesting although I agree with some of this we could see this spiral out of control in the long run.

    Does Rush Limbaugh get covered under this or how about the guys who put out the fake pizza story about Hillary

    or where do honest dissagreements about facts come in

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