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  • Schumer rejects GOP proposal to address border crisis.....

    This is why we are having a problem at the border in the first place. Congress refusing to do thier job! It is the Democrats that are politicizing the issue. Not Trump.

    “Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday dismissed a legislative proposal backed by Republican leaders to keep immigrant families together at the border, arguing that President Trump could fix the problem more easily with a "flick" of his pen.

    "There are so many obstacles to legislation and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense," Schumer told reporters. "Legislation is not the way to go here when it's so easy for the president to sign it."

    Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...sis/ar-AAySdCc
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

  • #2
    Schumer offer an alternative? No... How usual. The Democrats are obstructionists because they are the party of the Left and their view of politics is

    What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.

    They have ZERO inclination to compromise or present a plan that would solve this problem.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
      This is why we are having a problem at the border in the first place. Congress refusing to do thier job! It is the Democrats that are politicizing the issue. Not Trump.

      “Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday dismissed a legislative proposal backed by Republican leaders to keep immigrant families together at the border, arguing that President Trump could fix the problem more easily with a "flick" of his pen.

      "There are so many obstacles to legislation and when the president can do it with his own pen, it makes no sense," Schumer told reporters. "Legislation is not the way to go here when it's so easy for the president to sign it."

      Asked if that meant Democrats would not support a bill backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to keep immigrant families together while seeking asylum on the U.S. border, Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.”
      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...sis/ar-AAySdCc
      This is such a "Pile Of Male Bovine Droppings" as to illustrate the Intellectual, Logical, and Altruistic short comings of the (R)progressive, Loonie-Left, Socialist "Looters"(see: Ayn Rand), faction of our society ... ~~~ ... that it illustrates why USA is divided and can't "come together" in any realistic Common Cause.

      As Schumer epitomizes; "The Left"~"DemonCrats" want to paralyze the Nation anytime they can't get their way!?! So rather than co-operative compromise towards a working solution, the Loonie-Left~Regressive~"Liberals"; a.k.a. Demoncrats in USA will stick with ideological principles of partisan politics; versus working compromise to play a part in restoring American Greatness ~ Exceptionalality !!!
      Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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      • #4
        What else did one expect from Schumer?
        Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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        • #5
          Whose idea was it again to create internment camps for children? Democrats?
          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
          - Benjamin Franklin

          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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          • #6
            Good. Another dike for the blue wave.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
              Whose idea was it again to create internment camps for children? Democrats?
              These are not internment camps.
              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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              • #8
                I didn't vote for Trump, and I'm usually pretty critical of him, but on this particular issue the opposition is manifestly full of doo-doo. If a parent brought a child along on a bank robbery, would any reasonable person even suggest housing the child with the incarcerated parent? Of course not. The very notion is laughable. NYS recently enacted a law mandating that minor children found in a vehicle driven by an intoxicated parent are to be immediately taking into the state's custody. Not only is the intent to ensure the child's safety, but it's also a declaration of society's determination that criminals are not viewed as fit guardians. So are Trump's opponents viewing illegal border crossing as an okay crime, different from other crimes on the books? Sorry, but Trump's opponents' current protestations reek of political opportunism, and frankly can't be taken seriously.
                I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                  I didn't vote for Trump, and I'm usually pretty critical of him, but on this particular issue the opposition is manifestly full of doo-doo. If a parent brought a child along on a bank robbery, would any reasonable person even suggest housing the child with the incarcerated parent? Of course not. The very notion is laughable. NYS recently enacted a law mandating that minor children found in a vehicle driven by an intoxicated parent are to be immediately taking into the state's custody. Not only is the intent to ensure the child's safety, but it's also a declaration of society's determination that criminals are not viewed as fit guardians. So are Trump's opponents viewing illegal border crossing as an okay crime, different from other crimes on the books? Sorry, but Trump's opponents' current protestations reek of political opportunism, and frankly can't be taken seriously.
                  I would say minor misdemeanor

                  a better comparison would be removing kids from parents who commit a traffic infraction.

                  when factoring in as Trump supporters valid case what kind of parent does this and the answer is a very very desperate one.

                  I think our first world life does not prepare us to see this one correctly.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

                    These are not internment camps.
                    bah yeah they are I remember people saying Obama had them everywhere for Americans :-)

                    btw did see a republican screw up yesterday and call them internment camps while supporting the policy (just thought it was funny as oh boy you screwed up)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                      Whose idea was it again to create internment camps for children? Democrats?
                      Would seem it was the Demoncrats, EXCERPT;
                      ...
                      Finally, take the widely-parroted claim that President Trump has been forcing children out of the arms of their illegal immigrant parents. Here’s the truth: That’s what the law requires. In 1997, the federal government — then run by President Clinton — came to a settlement agreement that forced the government to discharge unaccompanied illegal immigrant minors to guardians within 20 days. Similarly, the 2008 William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act requires unaccompanied minors to be settled with guardians in the United States while undergoing removal proceedings. And in 2016, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed a district court decision extending those rules to accompanied minors as well as unaccompanied minors.

                      This meant that if illegal immigrant parents and children were arrested crossing the border, they could not be detained together by law: Within 20 days, children had to be remanded to the care of a guardian outside detention.

                      So Trump didn'’t simply decide to separate families. President Obama separated families, too. The only difference between Trump and Obama is that Trump is prosecuting illegal immigrants more consistently than Obama did — meaning that more adults are being arrested, which automatically means that children will be separated from their parents.

                      Now, Democrats could work with Republicans to solve that problem: They could attempt to change the law to provide for keeping families together in detainment. Instead, they’ll simply bet on nasty headlines and hope that President Trump gives up on law enforcement in order to make those headlines stop.
                      ...
                      http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...a-attack-trump
                      Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                        Good. Another dike for the blue wave.
                        Are we allowed to say "dike" these days?
                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by craven View Post

                          I would say minor misdemeanor

                          a better comparison would be removing kids from parents who commit a traffic infraction.

                          when factoring in as Trump supporters valid case what kind of parent does this and the answer is a very very desperate one.

                          I think our first world life does not prepare us to see this one correctly.
                          USC Title 8 section 1325 provides for up to six (6) months in jail, and fined (amount TBD but usually NTE $1000). In addition, a civil penalty of $250 and $50 in court costs can be assessed if the entry point was a designated immigration point of entry.

                          So, illegal entry on a first case is a misdemeanor more equivalent to DUI or serious shoplifting. That is, it is a criminal offense, and it is just short of a felony in severity.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by craven View Post

                            bah yeah they are I remember people saying Obama had them everywhere for Americans :-)

                            btw did see a republican screw up yesterday and call them internment camps while supporting the policy (just thought it was funny as oh boy you screwed up)
                            Obama did (also Clinton), see content and link of post #11 above.
                            Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
                            Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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                            • #15
                              and your point is

                              that not how it viewed by most of the US in this case which was the question

                              But keep up ensuring the dems win in 18 and 20


                              Your acting like the Dems post passing Obama care and enjoying being in your bubble and we see how that turned out. which was a good thing

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