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  • Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    MAGA, send Trump to the UK and Europe. Then listen to the big sucking sound when Trump goes to Finland to meet Vladie. I hope Trump has a napkin.
    Thanks for the opinion of an ex-pat
    Leadership is the ability to rise above conventional wisdom.

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    • Originally posted by Massena View Post

      He's old, so he'll have to bring his kneepads also.
      You're just too clever for this thread.
      Leadership is the ability to rise above conventional wisdom.

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      • Originally posted by Massena View Post
        He's old, so he'll have to bring his kneepads also.
        Putin has knee pads?

        Only you would know that.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post

          Thanks for the opinion of an ex-pat
          That has to live with all the face palming Europeans. Fortunately they understand Americans are not all Trump supporters nor ill mannered disrespectful buffoons .
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post

            You're just too clever for this thread.
            Apparently he is experienced.....

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            • Originally posted by pamak View Post

              I am not sure what you mean. If they classify it in the far right, the only blend I see is in semantics of their name and not in the substance of their politics. In a way, it is like trying to extrapolate from the name of the Democratic Party that they are closer to the political system of democracy than the political system of a Republic.
              Actually, the socialism and liberal~progressive ideology now held by the DNP is that;
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democr...(United_States)
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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              • Originally posted by Darth Holliday View Post

                Apparently he is experienced.....
                ...In what?
                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                • Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post

                  Ever hear the aphorism, "Keep you friends close, but you enemy closer."? Now is probably a time when we should be talking with Putin. Glad you are not an adviser in the White House.
                  Yeah!
                  To paraphrase JFK: "While we should never fear to negotiate, we should never negotiate because of fear."

                  Trump could, should put some hard questions to Putin about their hacking activities.
                  TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    ...In what?
                    Originally posted by Massena View Post
                    "He's old, so he'll have to bring his kneepads also."

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                    • Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Yep-Trump is stupid:

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

                      After the indictments today on 12 officers of the GRU, Trump should not meet with Putin, but lay down the law to him and let him know that next time there will be consequences for interfering in US elections.
                      Other than hacking into the Democratic Party computers, which seem to have had poor security systems, what ballots were changed, what ballot counts altered by this so-called "Russian meddling"(interfering) in our elections ???
                      TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                      • Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                        Other than hacking into the Democratic Party computers, which seem to have had poor security systems, what ballots were changed, what ballot counts altered by this so-called "Russian meddling"(interfering) in our elections ???
                        Well, I guess it's how you look at it. How many minds were changed as a result of tampering?
                        You're trying to make it all about the physical ballot, but it's about a whole lot more.
                        Conservatives in the U.S. won't be happy until Jim Crow returns and "White Heterosexual Only" signs are legalized.

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                        • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post

                          Well, I guess it's how you look at it. How many minds were changed as a result of tampering?
                          You're trying to make it all about the physical ballot, but it's about a whole lot more.
                          Their argument makes as much sense as saying that advertisement is not important because it does not physically buy the product for you. They know it is a weak argument, but it is the only thing with which they are left because now they cannot rationally deny that the Russians tried to help Trump.
                          My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                          • another aspect of conservative movements in general is the distorted rose-tinted fantasy of the "good old days", conveniently negating overwhelming bias and distorted memories. So what is precious now is to single mindedly work towards the perceived strengths of the "good old days".

                            US conservatism worships a fantasy world of the Leave it to Beaver 1950s (apparently known primarily by watching re-runs of black and white films on AMC) when "America was Great"- conveniently forgetting that a big portion of the country would have been considered 3rd world today and didn't even have a high school education, running water, electricity, refrigeration, and plumbing among countless other problems.

                            The Volkisch movement, then the SS were even more hardcore; their golden age was as far back as the middle ages when Germans and german society was racially pure and not weakened by racial degeneration and the chaos inflicted by their leftist enemies...
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                            Barbarossa Derailed I & II
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                            • On the other hand it's not reserved to conservatives but is present in many movements all around the globe. When the political direction of the country changes, it's normal that some don't want to accept the change.
                              There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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                              • Originally posted by Anthrax View Post

                                Well, I guess it's how you look at it. How many minds were changed as a result of tampering?
                                You're trying to make it all about the physical ballot, but it's about a whole lot more.
                                Would seem that's the whole purpose of campaigning, political ads, signs, etc. Each side will pint their candidate as the best choice and the other side's as not so. Jist of Russian "meddling" seems to be revealing things by HRC and her campaign that they should not have done, nor tried to hide. Many would say it's better this came out before the election rather than after.

                                Major factor few pick up on is that HRC did get a few million more popular votes than Trump. But Trump got far more of the electoral votes. This would suggest that HRC and the DNP failed at proper strategy and planning while Trump and RNC had a better focus on where to campaign in order to win.
                                TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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