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    De Tocqueville warned that pettiness invades a government which gives up concern for greatness. Adds an interesting dimension to Trump's theme "Make America Great Again" and explains the Democrats actions in Congress.
    Leadership is the ability to rise above conventional wisdom.

  • #2
    The US was already great before Trump, and we will be after he leaves. He isn't helping 'greatness' at all and has diminished the office of president.

    He is fulfilling the old definition, appropriately so, of 'trumpery':

    The definition of trumpery:
    1. worthless nonsense
    2. trivial or useless articles
    3. junk
    4. archaic : tawdry finery
    Trumpery derives from the Middle English trompery and ultimately from the Middle French tromper, meaning "to deceive." (You can see the meaning of this root reflected in the French phrase trompe-l'oeil-literally, "deceives the eye"-which in English refers to a style of painting with photographically realistic detail.) Trumpery first appeared in English in the mid-15th century with the meanings "deceit or fraud" (a sense that is now obsolete) and "worthless nonsense." Less than 100 years later, it was being applied to material objects of little or no value. The verb phrase trump up means "to concoct with the intent to deceive," but there is most likely no etymological connection between this phrase and trumpery.


    The following letter is also appropriate to Trump's nonsense and bullying, though from another time:


    My Fellow Citizens,

    The rise of this blusterous man bewilders the educated among us, conjoins opposing politicians, agonizes our international allies, threatens minorities, spits on the disabled, and touches the hearts of those who just don’t know any better.

    Let us stop propounding how mad this all is, but instead, do something.

    Lisolette Hubner

    Germany, 1929

    Finally, words of wisdom from Theodore Roosevely that should be taken to heart by everyone:

    ‘The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or anyone else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.

    -Theodore Roosevelt

    I don't believe that Roosevelt would approve of Trump and his nefarious actions.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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    • #3
      It was great but not as great as it should be thanks to the Democrats. But liberals being as ignorant as they are ​​​​can't see a hole in a ladder.
      My worst jump story:
      My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
      As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
      No lie.

      ~
      "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
      -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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      • #4
        Actually, I think Trump is most like TR--both Populists, breaking the mold of a president. IMO TR would be a kindred soul with Trump.

        If we were so great before Trump, why are fixing wrecked national security issues, the economy, and in a cultural revolution?

        De Tocqueville is probably greater wisdom than Hubner.
        Leadership is the ability to rise above conventional wisdom.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post
          Actually, I think Trump is most like TR--both Populists, breaking the mold of a president. IMO TR would be a kindred soul with Trump.

          If we were so great before Trump, why are fixing wrecked national security issues, the economy, and in a cultural revolution?

          De Tocqueville is probably greater wisdom than Hubner.
          I have avoided this cess pool for some time but when a person that I HAD highly respected comes with such total unsupported BS I'm morally forced to reply.

          Did you really think a President that started our National Pack system has the same soul as the present President? Do you real think that a man, TR, that led, from the front ,military men in combat is the same sort of soul as this despicable present President. Do you compared a man that mourned the death of his wife to a three time adulter? Question, have you gotten old and ? Cut me from one that once had high respect for you. OUT
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #6
            This is how TDS can turn people.
            There are no Nazis in Ukraine. © Idiots

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Massena View Post
              The US was already great before Trump, and we will be after he leaves. He isn't helping 'greatness' at all and has diminished the office of president.

              He is fulfilling the old definition, appropriately so, of 'trumpery':

              The definition of trumpery:
              1. worthless nonsense
              2. trivial or useless articles
              3. junk
              4. archaic : tawdry finery
              Trumpery derives from the Middle English trompery and ultimately from the Middle French tromper, meaning "to deceive." (You can see the meaning of this root reflected in the French phrase trompe-l'oeil-literally, "deceives the eye"-which in English refers to a style of painting with photographically realistic detail.) Trumpery first appeared in English in the mid-15th century with the meanings "deceit or fraud" (a sense that is now obsolete) and "worthless nonsense." Less than 100 years later, it was being applied to material objects of little or no value. The verb phrase trump up means "to concoct with the intent to deceive," but there is most likely no etymological connection between this phrase and trumpery.


              The following letter is also appropriate to Trump's nonsense and bullying, though from another time:


              My Fellow Citizens,

              The rise of this blusterous man bewilders the educated among us, conjoins opposing politicians, agonizes our international allies, threatens minorities, spits on the disabled, and touches the hearts of those who just don’t know any better.

              Let us stop propounding how mad this all is, but instead, do something.

              Lisolette Hubner

              Germany, 1929

              Finally, words of wisdom from Theodore Roosevely that should be taken to heart by everyone:

              ‘The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or anyone else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.

              -Theodore Roosevelt

              I don't believe that Roosevelt would approve of Trump and his nefarious actions.
              TR expresses an ideal for POTUS that few if any attained, himself included. From what I've read about TR, he would have objected even more over our previous POTUS whom was seeking to "fundamentally change America" along the socialist and anti-Western Culture, anti-capitalism ideology as expressed in 'his'(BHO's) first two books.
              Whiskey for my men, and beer for my horses.
              TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
              Bock's First Law of History: The Past shapes the Present, which forms the Future. *

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              • #8
                I want America to be great again. In fact, the entire world benefits when America is thriving. History as proven this over and over. America welcomed me and took me in, in return I will serve in any capacity to help make America great again.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by R.N. Armstrong View Post
                  Actually, I think Trump is most like TR--both Populists, breaking the mold of a president. IMO TR would be a kindred soul with Trump.

                  If we were so great before Trump, why are fixing wrecked national security issues, the economy, and in a cultural revolution?

                  De Tocqueville is probably greater wisdom than Hubner.
                  Roosevelt served his country in combat, as a police commissioner, and as president. He had both courage and integrity, two virtues that Trump sadly lacks.
                  If you believe that the US hasn't always been great, especially since the end of the 19th century, then your historical perspective is way out of whack. And if you expect Trump to fix anything, you're going to be sadly disappointed.
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by G David Bock View Post

                    TR expresses an ideal for POTUS that few if any attained, himself included. From what I've read about TR, he would have objected even more over our previous POTUS whom was seeking to "fundamentally change America" along the socialist and anti-Western Culture, anti-capitalism ideology as expressed in 'his'(BHO's) first two books.
                    actually growing up standard was just had to stand for the anthem and hand over heart for the Pledge. Am I incorrect on that or just experienced something unique to my area

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by craven View Post

                      actually growing up standard was just had to stand for the anthem and hand over heart for the Pledge. Am I incorrect on that or just experienced something unique to my area
                      Actually it's codified in law. Obama was breaking
                      36 U.S. Code § 301 section C.


                      https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                        Actually it's codified in law. Obama was breaking
                        36 U.S. Code § 301 section C.


                        https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301

                        that was not ineffect when we were growing up

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                          Actually it's codified in law. Obama was breaking
                          36 U.S. Code § 301 section C.



                          https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301
                          https://timeline.com/illegal-stand-n...m-222775e14f93

                          Scroll down to the picture of the 1992 packers game

                          also found this forum and although one guys keeps siting the code many on it were not taught to put hand over the heart and taught to stand with arms at the side

                          So why is that the case.

                          Oh btw it not a law if it a law it violates the consitutuion.
                          Last edited by craven; 14 Jun 18, 11:41.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by craven View Post


                            that was not ineffect when we were growing up
                            Actually it was.

                            https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Public_Law_77-623#Sec._7.

                            That was enacted in 1942. So, unless you're like in your 80's it was.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                              Actually it was.

                              https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Public_Law_77-623#Sec._7.

                              That was enacted in 1942. So, unless you're like in your 80's it was.
                              It's not enforced because people of different religious beliefs, including atheists, cannot be compelled to swear "under God" if such contradicts the tenets of their faith.
                              I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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