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  • #2
    Look at the positive: it's becoming a dumping ground for homeless and illegals, while jobs and businesses flow into better states.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
      Look at the positive: it's becoming a dumping ground for homeless and illegals, while jobs and businesses flow into better states.
      The negative is many of their Progressive idiots, fed up with the tar baby they created have come to Arizona and want to do the same thing here they did to California.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

        The negative is many of their Progressive idiots, fed up with the tar baby they created have come to Arizona and want to do the same thing here they did to California.
        Time to build a wall...
        The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hida Akechi View Post

          Time to build a wall...
          It has been suggested...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

            The negative is many of their Progressive idiots, fed up with the tar baby they created have come to Arizona and want to do the same thing here they did to California.
            Exactly. The disease of Rampant Liberalism is spreading all over the West, including attempt to Californicate Colorado which we are resisting so far.

            But one thing is certain - we do not need or want our West Coast and ports controlled by illegals. That goes directly against national interests and national security.


            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              A state based on feelings not evidence and reason will devolve into chaos.
              We hunt the hunters

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                A state based on feelings not evidence and reason will devolve into chaos.
                And yet they have been at it for decades now.
                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                  Look at the positive: it's becoming a dumping ground for homeless and illegals, while jobs and businesses flow into better states.
                  So Texas has no illegals? With a border that length with Mexico?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    And yet they have been at it for decades now.
                    The current crop of idiots inherited an amazing infrastructure they have allowed to deteriorate. In many ways it is symptomatic of how the baby boomers in general have spent the civilization they inherited but never had the humility or wisdom to appreciate. They confronted the flaws of racism, sexism, sexual repression, hypocrisy, religious bigotry, environmental degradation, war mongering, and meaningless labor because they were granted the luxury to ignore practical necessity. Hedonistic rebellious youth unaccustomed to the harsh realities of life who could never rise above platitudes.

                    It is not just the left's fault because the right has always been hypocritical in regards to the meritocracy. Little wonder that useless tech, the entertainment industry, sports and race baiters have been placed so highly in the merit hierarchy in opposition to that hypocrisy. Bread and circus always seems to replace virtue and meaning when a society is at it's material zenith.

                    Europe seems to have given up on Western Civilization the question is if California can resist that nihilism and return to rational self interest.
                    We hunt the hunters

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by johns624 View Post

                      So Texas has no illegals? With a border that length with Mexico?
                      They don't call them "illegals". They call them "migrant workers".
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

                        The current crop of idiots inherited an amazing infrastructure they have allowed to deteriorate. In many ways it is symptomatic of how the baby boomers in general have spent the civilization they inherited but never had the humility or wisdom to appreciate. They confronted the flaws of racism, sexism, sexual repression, hypocrisy, religious bigotry, environmental degradation, war mongering, and meaningless labor because they were granted the luxury to ignore practical necessity. Hedonistic rebellious youth unaccustomed to the harsh realities of life who could never rise above platitudes.

                        It is not just the left's fault because the right has always been hypocritical in regards to the meritocracy. Little wonder that useless tech, the entertainment industry, sports and race baiters have been placed so highly in the merit hierarchy in opposition to that hypocrisy. Bread and circus always seems to replace virtue and meaning when a society is at it's material zenith.

                        Europe seems to have given up on Western Civilization the question is if California can resist that nihilism and return to rational self interest.
                        I am reminded of the famous Ghandi quote:

                        When asked "What do you think of Western Civilization?" he said "I think it would be nice."

                        It's a long, long fall from the top.
                        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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