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  • Who's lying? NBC or FOX?

    Here's two news stories on the same subject, one by NBC, one by FOX. They're diametrically opposed.

    NBC's:

    Kelly thinks he's saving U.S. from disaster, calls Trump 'idiot,' say White House staffers
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    FOX's:

    John Kelly fights report he called Trump an 'idiot,' says story is 'total BS'
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp

    Well, one of them obviously has the story wrong or is outright lying...

    Kelly went on to say in the FOX version:

    White House Chief of Staff John Kelly emphatically denied an NBC News report Monday that he has repeatedly called President Trump "an idiot" in conversations with aides.
    Less than an hour after the NBC report was published, Kelly issued a statement calling the story "total BS."
    So, it appears NBC printed fake news or just made $h!+ up... Particularly as their version quotes "White House staff..."

  • #2
    Seems unlikely that there would be any upside to calling Trump an idiot even in private.
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    • #3
      As a general rule, NBC seldom tells the truth.

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      • #4
        Fox is a blatant Trump supporter from day one, so anything that comes from that channel should be taken with a large salt pill.
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        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Massena View Post
          Fox is a blatant Trump supporter from day one, so anything that comes from that channel should be taken with a large salt pill.
          I have News for you, so should anything that comes from a network with letters ending with NBC!
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          • #6
            Both of them. the story is on the Lame Stream Media and about politicians. It suits FOX in this case to go against the other story because it attracts more revenue than merely agreeing with it. This is Yellow Journalism 101.

            Meanwhile, all of the whiny little girlie-men should be banned from any job in Washington politics. If they can;t handle what happens to millions of Americans all of the time, then they are clearly unfit for any public position.
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              If you read both pieces rather than reacting to the misleading headlines the answer is neither. They are not diametrically opposed. They contain mostly the same information. Both contain an allegation and the denial of it by Kelly.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
                If you read both pieces rather than reacting to the misleading headlines the answer is neither. They are not diametrically opposed. They contain mostly the same information. Both contain an allegation and the denial of it by Kelly.
                "Allegation"? If the Media gods say it is so, then it is so. That's how it works when they accuse Trump, so that'show it works every time.
                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                  Seems unlikely that there would be any upside to calling Trump an idiot even in private.
                  But if he did, he would certainly deny it in public.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
                    If you read both pieces rather than reacting to the misleading headlines the answer is neither. They are not diametrically opposed. They contain mostly the same information. Both contain an allegation and the denial of it by Kelly.
                    Good point. There was a study not long ago that showed most people get their news purely from headlines and sound bites. They don't read articles or investigate further.
                    "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                    - Benjamin Franklin

                    The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AdrianE View Post
                      If you read both pieces rather than reacting to the misleading headlines the answer is neither. They are not diametrically opposed. They contain mostly the same information. Both contain an allegation and the denial of it by Kelly.
                      Ah, but from the headlines, they are opposites, and Nothing But Communists (aka NBC) is lying.

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                      • #12
                        Who says NBC says Paula Madison,and, where is Paula Madison now ?

                        At the Center for Public Desinformation (an American Pravda) ,also called Center for Public Integrity .

                        And, who owns the Center for Public Integrity ?

                        George Soros, who thinks that integrity is the name of the new Big Mac .

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                          Good point. There was a study not long ago that showed most people get their news purely from headlines and sound bites. They don't read articles or investigate further.
                          And who would know that better than the news outlets themselves? An accurate headline for either outlet should have been "Sources: Kelly Called Trump an 'Idiot' -- Kelly Denies It." Therefore, one, or both, of them is deliberately misrepresenting this issue. Personally, I don't care which one, 'cause they've both amply proven themselves to be full of crap years ago. . . .
                          Last edited by slick_miester; 01 May 18, 12:40. Reason: I can't spell. "D'oh!"
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                            And who would know that better than the news outlets themselves? An accurate headline for either outlet should have been "Sources: Kelly Called Trump an 'Idiot' -- Kelly Denies It." Therefore, one, or both, of them is deliberately misrepresenting this issue. personally, I don't care which one, 'cause they've both amply proven themselves to be full of crap years ago. . . .
                            But, it does show the duplicity of the MSM very clearly...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              But, it does show the duplicity of the MSM very clearly...
                              Only if Kelly's denial proves false. The rest is purely subjective: if one thinks that a chief-of-staff calling his President an "idiot" is the real meat in the story, then one is likely a Democrat -- and if one believes Gen Kelly's denial to be the real meat in the story, then one is likely a Republican. Otherwise, it's a non-story whichever way you cut it.

                              And for historical perspective, there's Secretary of War Edwin Stanton's take on his own President: "No one can imagine the deplorable condition of this city, and the hazard of the government, who did not witness the weakness and panic of the administration, and the painful imbecility of Lincoln." - [emphasis mine] And that was put in writing -- to a general officer of the US Army, no less.
                              I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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