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  • #31
    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    In Arizona, you make sure to shoot him somewhere other than in the back... You don't have to drag him anywhere...
    "He turned around to find the light switch when I shot him, and he was hit in the back."
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #32
      It sounds from listening to the video, that she was away from home and her security system alerted her to the B&E. She raced home while calling 911. She saw him coming out the window and there was a confrontation. I doubt if he was wishing her a good evening. His cousin needs to stop ODing on stupid pills.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
        That it is a lie that the "melting pot" can be equated with post modernist multiculturalism should not need pointing out. The fact that it does is a product of a corrupt educational system.
        True, but it's not just the public school system, bad as it is.

        No one likes to admit it, but a culture has evolved in the poor environs, one where single-parent homes are the norm, children are raised in environments where crime is a norm and no one in their family has had a job in generations.

        These days prison is inevitable in some social circles; it is much like the tradition of joining the military after you graduated. Kids grow up knowing that their mother, caretakers, family friends, and older siblings have all been in jail, and many have been or are in prison. Families with three generations serving time are not uncommon. You have kids who are legacy members of prison gangs before their first conviction.

        People adapt to their circumstances.
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • #34
          Another case, this one in San Diego County, I love the statement from the criminals mother...such a good boy..


          The mother of a suspected vehicle burglar said she's outraged police are not pursuing charges against the El Cajon homeowner who fatally shot her son.
          Early Sunday morning, an El Cajon resident said he shot someone he believed was breaking into his truck. In the midst of a confrontation, the homeowner said he fired off several shots from a .357 revolver style handgun.
          El Cajon police said the burglar was shot but escaped in another stolen truck he had driven to the crime scene on Chase Avenue.
          Suspect Joseph Mecurio then crashed into a home near Mona Place and died.
          "Just because you break into someone's car, doesn't mean you can be killed," said Mecurio's mother, Monika Anderson.
          But former District Attorney, now a Criminal Defense Attorney, Paul Pfingst said unbeknownst to the majority of the public, California law says you can actually be killed just for breaking into someone's car.
          "In the state of California, you are allowed to defend your property. You've worked for your property," Pfingst said. "A person's car could be critical to their livelihood and you don't have to let someone steal your property. You're allowed to stop them."
          Pfingst said that includes using deadly force if the attempted burglary or other crime a person is trying to stop is a felony.
          Whether or not the break-in attempt was a felony could be a question El Cajon police are trying to answer in their investigation. Lt. Walt Miller said there is no indication a second suspect was involved in the incident. But, Mercurio brought a stolen vehicle to the scene, and it's unclear whether he intended to leave it there.
          If Mercurio were trying to steal homeowner, Michael Po's truck, it would be a felony. But, if he were only trying to break into it, that could be a misdemeanor.
          Police said a confrontation ensued between the two men when the homeowner, Po, tried to stop Mercurio from breaking into his truck. If Mercurio threatened Po with any violence, that brings his actions back up to a felony, no matter what his intentions were with Po's truck.
          "He's never been violent in his entire life," his mother Monika Anderson said. Anderson said her son is a heroin addict and was probably looking for drugs or money in the truck to steal.
          Anderson would not say how or why she suspects that. She said Mercurio has been trying to get sober since his twin brother overdosed in 2011 and has been in and out of eight rehab centers.
          "He wanted to get sober so bad," she said.
          Anderson said Mercurio was the best son anyone could hope for and leaves behind a 6-year-old daughter.
          Pfingst said the bottom line is the law protects property owners and places the risk for criminal activity on the criminals.
          "If someone wants to steal your property and it's felony property, you don't have to run away," Pfingst said. "And you don't have to let them walk away with your property. You're allowed to fight and defend your property and you're allowed to use deadly force to do it under the law."
          El Cajon police have said it is unlikely charges will be filed against Po.
          NBC 7 investigated Mercurio's criminal history, finding no convictions for violent crimes, as his mother said.
          Mercurio was charged with a handful of felony and misdemeanor drug and paraphernalia possession charges, along with DUI charges between 2005 and 2014.
          The District Attorney's office has not yet received the case. That is the agency that will ultimately decide whether any charges will be f
          https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...476759723.html
          Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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          • #35
            Anderson said Mercurio was the best son anyone could hope for
            He was a heroin addict and she said this? Way to set the bar low.

            Funny how people who are killed in the commission of a crime are always on the verge of turning their life around.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
              He was a heroin addict and she said this? Way to set the bar low.

              Funny how people who are killed in the commission of a crime are always on the verge of turning their life around.

              No they always love their family. Hell only the worst of the worst hate their family. It's no rubric for deciding if someone's a good person.
              Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                He was a heroin addict and she said this? Way to set the bar low.

                Funny how people who are killed in the commission of a crime are always on the verge of turning their life around.
                That isn't setting the bar low. That's digging a deep hole to toss the bar into.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  "He turned around to find the light switch when I shot him, and he was hit in the back."
                  Front, Back, Side it doesn't matter, his A$$ was hers, the only thing that the shooter in the OP is guilty of is, depriving him of School Money (according to his family and all they boys from the hood) which he was entitled to.
                  Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
                    In Texas you drag the guy back to the thresh hold. Not everywhere is like Chicago.

                    Pruitt
                    You do know they have such things called forensic investigations, right? Make sure you put a tarp under him before dragging back and then you have to figure out where to hide the tarp. It will still be pointless if they find the bullet in an impossible position or the inconvenient blood splatters.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
                      No they always love their family. Hell only the worst of the worst hate their family. It's no rubric for deciding if someone's a good person.
                      They don't love their families. If they did, things like this will happen much less than it actually does.

                      Families rallying around a dead criminal are only interested in one thing. Their share of the payout when the City settles a wrongful death lawsuit.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                        You do know they have such things called forensic investigations, right? Make sure you put a tarp under him before dragging back and then you have to figure out where to hide the tarp. It will still be pointless if they find the bullet in an impossible position or the inconvenient blood splatters.
                        Like I state elsewhere. A backhoe fixes that problem. Dig deep and they'll never find him. "Who? Never saw the guy..."

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                          You do know they have such things called forensic investigations, right? Make sure you put a tarp under him before dragging back and then you have to figure out where to hide the tarp. It will still be pointless if they find the bullet in an impossible position or the inconvenient blood splatters.
                          No problem - that's what frangible ammo is for!
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                            Like I state elsewhere. A backhoe fixes that problem. Dig deep and they'll never find him. "Who? Never saw the guy..."
                            Out here you can just leave them for the coyotes. A day or two and there isn't any "forensic evidence".
                            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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